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    I was in Scheels the other day and talking to one of the guys in the gun department.

    The subject of Oc came up and he said he thought the city of Sparks recently passed an ordinance banning open carry. Is there any truth to this? I'm real curious.



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    No truth. They can not do that in the face of state law. They can regulate discharge but not carry.

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    Perhaps in parks? An ordinance was passed in 1983 prohibiting the carry of firearms in parks. Hopefully once the AG comes back with favorable opinion and Clark County complies with the ruling, we can force other cities & counties to also obey the law.

    http://www.ci.sparks.nv.us/governing..._12/24/070.php

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    Tim have you read this where Boulder City says they can not enforce the laws they have on the books?

    http://nevadashooters.com/showthread.php?t=8554

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    WOW! Fantastic!

    I just sent the link over to the DA's office and to the AG's office. Now we'll just have to see what they have to say. I think it'd be pretty ironic for Boulder City to admit publicly they can't enforce the laws on the books, followed shortly thereafter by the AG saying the SB92 amendment to NRS applies only to registration.

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    timf343 wrote:
    WOW! Fantastic!

    I just sent the link over to the DA's office and to the AG's office. Now we'll just have to see what they have to say. I think it'd be pretty ironic for Boulder City to admit publicly they can't enforce the laws on the books, followed shortly thereafter by the AG saying the SB92 amendment to NRS applies only to registration.

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    And our local (Fallon) City Attorney also agrees that SB-92 preempts.

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    Tony Gable wrote:
    I was in Scheels the other day and talking to one of the guys in the gun department.

    The subject of Oc came up and he said he thought the city of Sparks recently passed an ordinance banning open carry. Is there any truth to this? I'm real curious.



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    You can OC in Sparks but not in Scheels. Since Scheels is at the Legends and the Legends is private property they don't want firearms there. The manager at Scheels was really nice when informing me of the rules. He didn't ask me to leave, he just informed me of the Legends policy and I said that is fine and took the gun to my car and went back to shop.

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    You should have showed them your displeasure with there policy and taken your gun and your money elsewhere.
    EDC=XDm40 16+1+16+16

    RED DRAGONS!!!!

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    It wasn't Scheels policy, it was the land owners policy according to the manager. I looked up Scheels website for their policy about OC and Scheels supports OC. Bottom line is the manager was very very polite so why argue and start a fight that didn't need to be started.

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    If scheels pressure the land owner about losing business. They might force a policy change.

    And what is Scheels?
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    RED DRAGONS!!!!

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    That is true, I have read other threads about people having problems at that development site. Scheel's is a large sporting goods store. They also sell a crap load of guns and anything to go with them. I also noticed there is nothing at either entrance saying firearms are prohibited.

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    They're a part of the Legends Shopping Center, and Legends is anti gun per their Code of Conduct.

    Legend's website is down, but we discussed #16 on their COC in this thread.

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_to...hlight=legends





    Their policy carries no weight of law, so I continue to CC when I'm forced to go there. But OC will probably bring their rent-a-cops to issue a tresspass.

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    Sabotage70 wrote:
    And what is Scheels?
    Scheels is a large chain of sporting goods stores. This one in Sparks is the largest in the country and has a huge gun dept that allows you to fondle the rifles with no clear present.

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    jfrey123 wrote:
    But OC will probably bring their rent-a-cops to issue a tresspass.
    My feeling on this is to just leave when they ask you to. If they say they're issuing a trespass, just ignore them and continue walking out. DO NOT SHOW THEM IDENTIFICATION or otherwise answer any questions that would help them identify you by name.

    It's technically a civil issue at that point, and police should not get involved.

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    So I am currently sitting at the sparks marina. I walked all the way around with gun on hip. Never got a second look. As I got to the ranger station where the rules were actually posted, it said no weapons including firearms. I thought state parks and stuff were ok for OC. Does anyone know anything about this?

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    renoglock22 wrote:
    So I am currently sitting at the sparks marina. I walked all the way around with gun on hip. Never got a second look. As I got to the ranger station where the rules were actually posted, it said no weapons including firearms. I thought state parks and stuff were ok for OC. Does anyone know anything about this?
    There is a Sparks Municipal Code banning guns in any city park unless the owner has a CCW and carries within the guidelines of the permit. The SB92 "State Preemption" nullifies any city or county code, as the State is reserving the ability to regulate carry/possession/registration of guns. The SMC is still on the books, but unenforcable.

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    I know I sound like a noob at this whole OC thing but what exactly is the sb92 state preempt law?

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    Originally passed as Assembly Bill (AB) 147 in 1989, state preemption grandfathered in old ordinances in effect prior to 1989. Senate Bill (SB) 92 was passed in 2007 and removed those grandfathered ordinances. Under State law, the only legal gun laws in this state are:

    Federal Gun Laws
    State Gun Laws
    Local (County, City, or Township) regulating discharge
    Clark County handgun registration

    Any other gun law that exists on the books is unlawful, void, and unenforceable, including any signs or rules at a City marina or park.

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    Those two bills, AB147 and SB92, created and amended:

    NRS 244.364
    County Preemption

    NRS 268.418
    City Preemption

    NRS 269.222
    Township Preemption

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