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It has come to my attention that the UAB Firearms Policy creates a no-win situation. If you arrive to be admitted to the hospital with a weapon, and you are legally open-carrying without a concealed carry permit, you cannot get your gun back.
From: http://www.iss.uab.edu/Pol/FirearmsFtab.pdf
Procedures for Enforcement
A. This policy will be published in staff, faculty, and student handbooks of the University. Until such time those handbooks sufficiently incorporate the provisions of this policy, any stipulations in those handbooks which are contrary to the provisions of this policy are superseded by the wording of this policy.
B. Appropriate signs indicating that firearms are not allowed in UAB buildings will be placed in outpatient and inpatient admitting areas and at other campus locations as deemed appropriate.
C. Persons who enter UAB buildings,Hospital buildings, or other facilities in possession of firearms, ammunition, or dangerous weapons should be made aware of this policy and must leave the premises immediately. They may return without the firearm, ammunition, or weapon.
D. A patient who arrives for admission to the UAB University Hospital in possession of a firearm, ammunition, or other dangerous weapon must turn such an item over to the UAB Police who will retain the item in safekeeping until retrieved by the patient upon discharge or by a family member. In either case, the person requesting return of a firearm must present a valid gun permit before the weapon will be released to him or her.
E. Visitors to the campus who violate this policy and who refuse to leave the premises with their firearms, ammunition, or weapons are to be escorted from the premises by the UAB Police. Staff members, faculty members, or students who violate this policy are to be disciplined and are required to turn over the firearms, ammunition, or weapons to the UAB Police Department. If they refuse to do so, they are to be escorted from the premises by the UAB Police.
This policy raises several questions. One is: What is a gun permit? Alabama only issues or recognizes Concealed Carry Licenses. There is no way to obtain a permit for a gun in the state; it is not required. You license the person, not the weapon itself. Two: If you arrive on a gurney or wheelchair with a gun on your side, and you don't have a concealed carry permit, they will not give you your gun back.
Further, the same policy contains this paragraph:
The University complies with, and shall enforce, all applicable local, state, and federal laws and regulations relative to this policy and necessary for its enforcement.
Yet the policy is counter to The Code Of Alabama:
Section 11-45-1.1: Subject matter of handguns reserved to State Legislature
It has come to my attention that the UAB Firearms Policy creates a no-win situation. If you arrive to be admitted to the hospital with a weapon, and you are legally open-carrying without a concealed carry permit, you cannot get your gun back.
From: http://www.iss.uab.edu/Pol/FirearmsFtab.pdf
Procedures for Enforcement
A. This policy will be published in staff, faculty, and student handbooks of the University. Until such time those handbooks sufficiently incorporate the provisions of this policy, any stipulations in those handbooks which are contrary to the provisions of this policy are superseded by the wording of this policy.
B. Appropriate signs indicating that firearms are not allowed in UAB buildings will be placed in outpatient and inpatient admitting areas and at other campus locations as deemed appropriate.
C. Persons who enter UAB buildings,Hospital buildings, or other facilities in possession of firearms, ammunition, or dangerous weapons should be made aware of this policy and must leave the premises immediately. They may return without the firearm, ammunition, or weapon.
D. A patient who arrives for admission to the UAB University Hospital in possession of a firearm, ammunition, or other dangerous weapon must turn such an item over to the UAB Police who will retain the item in safekeeping until retrieved by the patient upon discharge or by a family member. In either case, the person requesting return of a firearm must present a valid gun permit before the weapon will be released to him or her.
E. Visitors to the campus who violate this policy and who refuse to leave the premises with their firearms, ammunition, or weapons are to be escorted from the premises by the UAB Police. Staff members, faculty members, or students who violate this policy are to be disciplined and are required to turn over the firearms, ammunition, or weapons to the UAB Police Department. If they refuse to do so, they are to be escorted from the premises by the UAB Police.
This policy raises several questions. One is: What is a gun permit? Alabama only issues or recognizes Concealed Carry Licenses. There is no way to obtain a permit for a gun in the state; it is not required. You license the person, not the weapon itself. Two: If you arrive on a gurney or wheelchair with a gun on your side, and you don't have a concealed carry permit, they will not give you your gun back.
Further, the same policy contains this paragraph:
The University complies with, and shall enforce, all applicable local, state, and federal laws and regulations relative to this policy and necessary for its enforcement.
Yet the policy is counter to The Code Of Alabama:
Section 11-45-1.1: Subject matter of handguns reserved to State Legislature