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    http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...ingid=69697830

    4GB USB Digital Pocket 640x480 Video Recorder & Ballpoint Pen w/Built-in Pin-Hole Camera $49.00 inc shipping

    4 GB USB Digital Pocket Video Recorder Ballpoint Pen General Features: Elegant black and silver design Digital Pocket Video Recorder 4 GB capacity USB interface Fully Functional Black Ink Ball Point pen Small pin-hole color camera AVI video format: 640 x 480 CIF resolution Photo: JPEG format, resolution: 1280 x 1024 Easy to use one touch record button Built-in Li-ion battery Working time: about 90 minutes DC-5V charge voltage Approximately 5.75-inch length Controls: Status light USB Reset Switch mode Power on/off

    OR

    http://www.heartlandamerica.com/brow...=S&DL=SEH1

    4GB flash memory to store up to 5 hours of video, on-board mic, built-in rechargeable battery, comfort rubber finger grip, replaceable ink cartridge, USB 2.0 interface and more. Windows compatible. 5.8"L $60. free shipping & $10 mail in rebate.


    And for those going to ask... Can we record?

    http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/washington.html


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    As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing as private conversation. That means engaging in talk with a LEO or even the PM system on this site is automatic consensual recording.

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    That is very Bond, James Bond.
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
    what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

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    As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing as private conversation.
    Yeah, don't pay any attention to that pesky RCW thingie...

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    RCW thingy doesnt mean anything as long as you dont want to use the recording.
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
    what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

    "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas

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    kparker wrote:
    Yeah, don't pay any attention to that pesky RCW thingie...
    Thank you. I won't. :X

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    Be careful of the gadget in the Buy.com link, that only records video, no audio. I dropped some info into the 7-11 thread as well:

    Video & Voice:
    http://www.amazon.com/Ninjas-Working.../ref=pd_cp_e_3

    Voice only:
    http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/dp4802.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ8VvwO7ZrI
    (turn down the volume for watching this, and yeah, it's a bit creapy)


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    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280466339282 $37 buy it now with free shipping

    There are 5 left from a seller in the US. This is the same recorder as the above 4gb... except it's an 8gig. The battery time isn't all that great, but I figure a couple hours is good enough and you only lose a 1/2hr compared with the 4gig. I carry a USB charger anyway, so the video record time is more important and easier than getting to a computer to erase the data.

    Just thought I'd throw another option out there!

    great post M1

    edit to add: make sure you check all the specs and decide what's best for you

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    I just ordered one of these from buy.com for $55 after 2-day shipping.



    http://www.amazon.com/Philips-LFH060...150&sr=1-1



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    Aryk45XD wrote:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280466339282 $37 buy it now with free shipping

    There are 5 left from a seller in the US. This is the same recorder as the above 4gb... except it's an 8gig. The battery time isn't all that great, but I figure a couple hours is good enough and you only lose a 1/2hr compared with the 4gig. I carry a USB charger anyway, so the video record time is more important and easier than getting to a computer to erase the data.

    Just thought I'd throw another option out there!

    great post M1

    edit to add: make sure you check all the specs and decide what's best for you
    Looks like a decent option, will you please post up a quickie review when you get it?

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    midiwall wrote:
    Aryk45XD wrote:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280466339282 $37 buy it now with free shipping

    There are 5 left from a seller in the US. This is the same recorder as the above 4gb... except it's an 8gig. The battery time isn't all that great, but I figure a couple hours is good enough and you only lose a 1/2hr compared with the 4gig. I carry a USB charger anyway, so the video record time is more important and easier than getting to a computer to erase the data.

    Just thought I'd throw another option out there!

    great post M1

    edit to add: make sure you check all the specs and decide what's best for you
    Looks like a decent option, will you please post up a quickie review when you get it?
    I'd be glad to. I'm sure I'm going to run it through the ringer with all types of different conditions.

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    Personally, I've been using the Olympus VN-4100PC

    23+ hrs of audio recording on fresh batteries, high Quality recording, USB capable, internal or external mic.





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    M1Gunr wrote:
    http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...ingid=69697830

    4GB USB Digital Pocket 640x480 Video Recorder & Ballpoint Pen w/Built-in Pin-Hole Camera $49.00 inc shipping



    OR

    http://www.heartlandamerica.com/brow...=S&DL=SEH1

    4GB flash memory to store up to 5 hours of video, on-board mic, built-in rechargeable battery, comfort rubber finger grip, replaceable ink cartridge, USB 2.0 interface and more. Windows compatible. 5.8"L $60. free shipping & $10 mail in rebate.


    And for those going to ask... Can we record?

    http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/washington.html
    If anyone gets the one with sound from Heartland or see's a better deal on them, lets us know. I think the pen cam w/audio and rechargable batt is good deal.
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
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    M1Gunr wrote:


    4GB USB Digital Pocket 640x480 Video Recorder & Ballpoint Pen w/Built-in Pin-Hole Camera $49.00 inc shipping
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    If anyone gets the one with sound from Heartland or see's a better deal on them, lets us know. I think the pen cam w/audio and rechargable batt is good deal.
    This is the same as i'm getting in the 8gig. Did a lot of research and it seems the battery life is 2 1/2 hours. If you want I will bring it to a meet with my laptop so you can check it out and see what you think. Like I said, I plan on doing some tests.

    edit to add: sorry, my phone went full auto for this post. Delete please?

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    Aryk45XD wrote:
    amzbrady wrote:
    M1Gunr wrote:


    4GB USB Digital Pocket 640x480 Video Recorder & Ballpoint Pen w/Built-in Pin-Hole Camera $49.00 inc shipping
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    If anyone gets the one with sound from Heartland or see's a better deal on them, lets us know. I think the pen cam w/audio and rechargable batt is good deal.
    This is the same as i'm getting in the 8gig. Did a lot of research and it seems the battery life is 2 1/2 hours. If you want I will bring it to a meet with my laptop so you can check it out and see what you think. Like I said, I plan on doing some tests.
    Where are you ordering from? I've been looking at a few sights and qualities, from 26.95 to 88.95 for 8 gig and expandable.

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    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
    what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

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    8th post down... My first reply on this one. Ebay.

    edit to add: I was on my phone and it's a pain to copy and paste or edit a quote.

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    Just a head's up... Using the basic description from the item that Aryk45XD found pops up a number of other vendors on eBay selling (what appears to be) the same thing for _less_ (though they're shipping from outside the US). ref:
    http://bit.ly/a5mquG

    There's a BIN there for $24.98.


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    Well, I wrote a review of the pen cam and lost it when I tried to send it off. Apparently it didn't like the video that was uploading. Basically, the video quality is amazing and refresh rate is great. You can make out about every car as they zoom across my windshield when it's on my visor. The adjustment to darkness is awesome too. The sound could be better, but very manageable. I'll bring it and my laptop to a meeting sometime. I will say, for short runs or driving it's more than I would need in any defense or bear witness to.

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    Have you tested it to see how long it records? I have a couple different but similarspy cameras, with a 4gb micro sd card they get maybe a half hour of recording. Not near enough for that much memory.

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    It's recorded over an hour. The one time that the video would not play was the one time I've let it run out. Too soon to say if it was related, but I will find out. As I said though, it's really great for short trips and a simple push will put it on standby and record again. I just had about 12 vids and still lots of room.

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    Aryk45XD wrote:
    It's recorded over an hour. The one time that the video would not play was the one time I've let it run out. Too soon to say if it was related, but I will find out. As I said though, it's really great for short trips and a simple push will put it on standby and record again. I just had about 12 vids and still lots of room.
    Thank you for the comments thus far! I have a couple of questions...
    • Does it create a separate AVI file each time you start recording?
    • Is there any sense of an onboard clock? i.e., what are the timestamps on the files?
    • When you plug into your computer, I figure that the device mounts as a drive. Are the files ready for playback or do they have to be processed in some way?
    • How clear is the audio?
    I have a ton of file space online and I'd be happy to host video examples for you. Send me an email with a couple of files attached and I'll get them up and post a link here.


    Here's an updated eBay search list:
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    Clicking BIN in 3... 2... 1...

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    I purchased one of these pin hole pen things and it sucked. It came with a virus in the memory, it worked as advertised about 3 times and then would lockup. I tried all the recommended fixes (read the reviews on DealExtreme). After a while locked up, the battery would go dead and recharging it would lock it up. The reset button became the most used button on the device.

    Finally tossed it. A reliable voice recorder is more useful to me than 100 fancy gadgets that operate, maybe.

    Kind of like my Guns.





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