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It is just as fast and has many benefits such as when driving or riding. The way I carry makes a gun grab from behind almost impossible... and since I use a retention holster that only adds to security.
 
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How well I know, you're preaching to the choir. Even as a child w/cap guns I preferred cross draw. IMO, there are no disadvantages to it. And to use some of the anti's "old west"... most of the more notable "shootist" also used cross draw.
 
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WARCHILD wrote:
How well I know, you're preaching to the choir. Even as a child w/cap guns I preferred cross draw. IMO, there are no disadvantages to it. And to use some of the anti's "old west"... most of the more notable "shootist" also used cross draw.
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I carry cross draw when concealing. That way I don't expose while going for my wallet or keys.

When carrying openly, I always do a strong side draw. I just find it more comfortable and more smooth, although not by much.

If I remember right, Rex Applegate was against cross draw carry because he found it often caused a problem with sweeping past the target and missing the first shot. It makes sense, but I don't think it's applicable to well practiced individuals.
 
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It does for me. I don't use the traditional stance...weaver..etc. I most generally use the side stance keeping my left side to target; presenting a smaller target silhouette of my own. I am aiming / on target as I draw. May be strange, but so am I and it works for me.
 
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That new MOC Shirt could be considered Bandishing couldn`t it? I know the law defines Brandishing says " To bring attention to your firearm, And I think that ths just might be taken the wrong way and be considered Brandishing.
 
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wally1120 wrote:
That new MOC Shirt could be considered Bandishing couldn`t it? I know the law defines Brandishing says " To bring attention to your firearm, And I think that ths just might be taken the wrong way and be considered Brandishing.
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brandish
1. To wave or flourish (a weapon, for example) menacingly.

it cannot be considered brandishing in this and many otherstates,if you were to wear a similar shirt in a no OC state(such as texas) you could get in trouble however.
 
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That's quite a new one. Shirt you wear causing brandishing. You musta spoke with Lansing PD :dude:
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id say jackson,cuz the person is from there...and look how kimberguy has been treated there??? lol.



but i know some states say you cant print or have anything that would imply you are carrying concealed.

dont ask me for a cite,i read it somewhere,i think one of the other states forums.
 
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+1 for another lefty.

Now if only they were in my size...

6'1 with all torso. Need to have all of my shirts 'Tall', or they look like a tanktop.
 
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lil_freak_66 wrote:
brandish
1. To wave or flourish (a weapon, for example) menacingly.

it cannot be considered brandishing in this and many otherstates,if you were to wear a similar shirt in a no OC state(such as texas) you could get in trouble however.
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Which definition of brandishing should we use? The AG Opinion #7101 quotes The American Heritage Dictionary as defining brandishing as:

The American Heritage Dictionary, Second College Edition (1982), at p 204, the term brandishing is defined as: "1. To wave or flourish menacingly, as a weapon. 2. To display ostentatiously.
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Dictionary.com offers this definition of ostentatious:

1. characterized by or given to pretentious or conspicuous show in an attempt to impress others: an ostentatious dresser.

2. (of actions, manner, qualities exhibited, etc.) intended to attract notice: Lady Bountiful's ostentatious charity.


Do I think it's a bit of a stretch? Sure. But I also think it's a stretch that some LEOs and prosecutors would jump at. If I can think of it, they can think of it.


Bronson
 
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wally1120 wrote:
That new MOC Shirt could be considered Bandishing couldn`t it? I know the law defines Brandishing says " To bring attention to your firearm, And I think that ths just might be taken the wrong way and be considered Brandishing.
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No more than a shirt displaying "Open Carry of a Pistol is Legal in Michigan."
 
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