Open Carry Pocket Cards

[zigziggityzoo]

So I got sick of the pocketable infocards out there... They're not exactly readable.

You can print these yourself using Avery cards or what-have-you, or order them from a printing house.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...mits_Front.pdf
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...imits_Back.pdf

I made this literally in 5 minutes, so if something's wrong, lemme know.

Also, I think I may add the legal cites (Basically 750.234d).

Critique away.

EDIT: Also - these aren't endorsed by Michigan Open Carry. ;-)

[autosurgeon]

Hey very nice job on these!!! I like way much:celebrate

[stainless1911]

Might add "Vehicles" to off limits w/o CPL.

Also, you might ask WARCHILD if you could put those links up on his stickied thread, I think this would fit in well there.

[WARCHILD]

You don't need my permission. Any usable info is welcome. Nice job on the cards.

[zigziggityzoo]

stainless1911 wrote:

Might add "Vehicles" to off limits w/o CPL.

Cards updated. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Michigander]

2 more places, off the top of my head that you generally can't carry at, even with a CPL, are reservations, and sterile areas of airports.


Edit to add- I am very pleased with this card idea. It sums up a lot of confusing info in one handy little card. I think a way to expand on this would be to make one catered towards those with CPL's, detailing where you can't CC and must OC, and also the places where you can't carry at all. This would have a lot of potential as something for CPL teachers to hand out.

[zigziggityzoo]

Michigander wrote:

2 more places, off the top of my head that you generally can't carry at, even with a CPL, are reservations, and sterile areas of airports.

While this may be true, it's not codified, and at least for indian reservations, that's not necessarily universally true.

Airports are codified, and will update accordingly.

Edit to add- I am very pleased with this card idea. It sums up a lot of confusing info in one handy little card. I think a way to expand on this would be to make one catered towards those with CPL's, detailing where you can't CC and must OC, and also the places where you can't carry at all. This would have a lot of potential as something for CPL teachers to hand out.

I might do that next.

[zigziggityzoo]

Cards updated to reflect Sterile Zones as pistol-free areas.

[stainless1911]

bump. see first post.

Talked a freind into OC, he bought one and OCed 1st time yesterday.

Handed out these cards to a lady I worked for, she seemed like she would start.

Talked this guy into it who was working at the mall, and has talked to me about OC several times. He just got an XD 9, and he is considering the whole OC idea.

[scot623]

Any need to add a "without permission" to the applicable locations on the non-cpl side? Or is that muddying up the waters too much?

[stainless1911]

maybe if it specified Rights" without permission. I wonder how many would get it, even if they saw it.

They studyamerican historyin school, but when they see you carry its always, "you can do that??

[taxwhat]

zigziggityzoo wrote:

So I got sick of the pocketable infocards out there... They're not exactly readable.

You can print these yourself using Avery cards or what-have-you, or order them from a printing house.

http://web.me.com/joshtish/Offlimits_Front.pdf
http://web.me.com/joshtish/Offlimits_Back.pdf

I made this literally in 5 minutes, so if something's wrong, lemme know.

Also, I think I may add the legal cites (Basically 750.234d).

Critique away.

EDIT: Also - these aren't endorsed by Michigan Open Carry. ;-)

Federal building and/or offices

[zigziggityzoo]

scot623 wrote:

Any need to add a "without permission" to the applicable locations on the non-cpl side? Or is that muddying up the waters too much?

The problem is that about half of the ones on the Non-CPL side are no carry no matter what - you can't get permission to carry there.

So yes, I think it muddy's the waters too much. If people really want to know the nitty gritty they can come to places like this website, or look up the laws themselves (one can only hope...)

[zigziggityzoo]

taxwhat wrote:

zigziggityzoo wrote:

So I got sick of the pocketable infocards out there... They're not exactly readable.

You can print these yourself using Avery cards or what-have-you, or order them from a printing house.

http://web.me.com/joshtish/Offlimits_Front.pdf
http://web.me.com/joshtish/Offlimits_Back.pdf

I made this literally in 5 minutes, so if something's wrong, lemme know.

Also, I think I may add the legal cites (Basically 750.234d).

Critique away.

EDIT: Also - these aren't endorsed by Michigan Open Carry. ;-)

Federal building and/or offices

Too many words.

[scot623]

I agree. This card gives you the nuts and bolts to keep
you out of a ticket/jail.

[stainless1911]

Yes, these cards are great as is. If you need to know more, just check out WARCHILDS stickied thread about the carry charts, and get involved in the rest of the forums.

[SpringerXDacp]

I think the cards are fine the way they are. You'll never be able to provide all the information on them to fit everyone's needs.

[stainless1911]

bump

[EM87]

Zig, this is great! Thanks!

[kryptonian]

as long as we are talking about carry cards i think a more usable one would be a list of the michigan legal statutes that cover OC. this wouldn't be for your reference so much as it would be to show LEO or managers of establishments that aren't sure of the law. you wouldn't have to quote the entire statute but the wording that directly applies with red lettering for the crucial words. if an LEO wanted to challenge your legal knowledge it would be all right there. they can't argue the exact law that allows it.

[kryptonian]

also thought of LEO question flash cards..question on the front..the answer you should give on the back

[langenc]

How did the secure areas of an airport ever get to be called "STERILE"???

Why not secure?

[stainless1911]

Because without citizens actively exercising A2, they aren't secure.

[Agent1]

Question.....

How did the secure areas of an airport ever get to be called "STERILE"???

Why not secure?

Answer.....

Because without citizens actively exercising A2, they aren't secure.

[Butch00]

Does Michigan have a statute that you can't OC in a bank?
Banks are private and can sign them if they want.
Here in Alaska I OC in banks all the time, very few put up signs.