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    Just got an email back from
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    Vivian Sartori 
    Division of Interpretation 
    Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument 
    #10 Organ Pipe Drive 
    Ajo, AZ 85321
    The question I asked was if they are aware of the new law and I got this is response.


    "If you are licensed to carry a gun (either open or CCW), you may carry one within the monument. All State of Arizona laws apply."

    :?

    So, you do need an Arizona CCW license to carry openly in the monument?
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    Obviously not, all Arizona rules apply. She means, although worded it wrong, if you can legally carry. You might want to point that out to Vivian

    Grimes wrote:
    Just got an email back from
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    Vivian Sartori 
    Division of Interpretation 
    Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument 
    #10 Organ Pipe Drive 
    Ajo, AZ 85321
    The question I asked was if they are aware of the new law and I got this is response.


    "If you are licensed to carry a gun (either open or CCW), you may carry one within the monument. All State of Arizona laws apply."

    :?

    So, you do need an Arizona CCW license to carry openly in the monument?

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    Anyone who can legally own a gun (18+) in Arizona can legally OC without a permit. Some state park (I think Dead Horse in Cottonwood does this) will only allow you to OC if you have CCW (makes no sense!) but whatever.
    My location says I am from Sierra Vista, AZ which is where I live now but I actually lived in MO for 26 years! So please stop telling me I don't know what I'm talking about when I post in the Missouri forum!

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    Pace wrote:
    Obviously not, all Arizona rules apply. She means, although worded it wrong, if you can legally carry. You might want to point that out to Vivian
    She sent an email back saying,

    :celebrate

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    "No. You just need your state license in order to carry openly. You do not 
    need a CCW license unless you carry a concealed weapon."
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    By state license, I'm guessing she means a drivers license since open carry doesn't require anything.
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    Does Arizona have a requirement to produce ID? I don't think so.

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    If you're not using a credit card or writing a check, I don't know why they would ask for id.

    I've never been asked by anyone, including police.
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    http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument....mp;DocType=ARS

    13-2412. Refusing to provide truthful name when lawfully detained; classification
    A. It is unlawful for a person, after being advised that the person's refusal to answer is unlawful, to fail or refuse to state the person's true full name on request of a peace officer who has lawfully detained the person based on reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime. A person detained under this section shall state the person's true full name, but shall not be compelled to answer any other inquiry of a peace officer.
    B. A person who violates this section is guilty of a class 2 misdemeanor.

    Apparently it is only illegal if you are *detained*, but not simply stopped. Ergo, if they ask you, and you don't feel like telling, ask them if you are being detained or arrested. If they say no, you don't have to tell them. Tape recorder might be advisable.

    My location says I am from Sierra Vista, AZ which is where I live now but I actually lived in MO for 26 years! So please stop telling me I don't know what I'm talking about when I post in the Missouri forum!

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    Vivian is uh... cornfuzed. No license is required to OC anything in AZ. You don't even have to be a resident. It's not a CCW either... it's a CWP. The people who are supposed to know these things don't.

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