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    I just heard onKSL radio station that a man at the SL Airpot was checking in at the curb with a SkyCap guy and when he took it out to show the SkyCap his gun before he checked it in, the gun owner accidently drops his Handgun. When hitting the ground it made the gun discharge. They said it was a semi-auto handgun (I am interested to know what kind of gun it was.) The bullet it the pavement then bounced up and hit the SkyCap in the foot. The reporter said it was ruled and accident but might be charged with having a "round in the chamber." No mention if he was a CFP holder, but if he is then he can not be charged with anything, this goes to show you that reporters no longer investigate the story they just repeat what the police might have told him.

    Note: To all reponsible gun owners when handing over your firearm to someone (especially) some you do not know, 1st make sure you drop the mag (which this guy did) then check and double check to see if there is one in the pipe! I would suggest to do this in your car before you get out in public (especially at an Airport.)

    Sorry, that is all the infomation I have about this story from the radio, if you see something online please post a link.
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    The story claims the gun was a GLOCK, but the photos clearly show a Springfield XD.






    http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9810809

    Skycap injured in accidental shooting

    February 25th, 2010 @ 5:10pm
    By Jed Boal

    SALT LAKE CITY -- A skycap was accidentally hit in the foot by shrapnel from a gun that accidentally went off at the Salt Lake International Airport Thursday afternoon.

    According to Dave Korzep, the airport's superintendent of operations, the incident happened at a skycap booth at Terminal 1 around noon. "A passenger was declaring his firearm for shipment and either dropped it or mishandled it and we had an accidental discharge," Korzep said.

    The bullet hit the pavement, and bullet fragments hit a skycap worker in the foot. Korzep says the skycap's injuries were minor.

    "The skycap was treated at the scene by airport paramedics. He signed a release and was not transported to the hospital," he said.

    Authorities responded immediately to the skycap station. They determined it was an accident.

    Korzep says the traveler thought the Glock semi-automatic pistol was unloaded, but there was likely an extra round in the chamber. He says there is a certain procedure that must be followed when checking firearms at the airport.

    "It has to be in a hardened, locked case and obviously the weapon should be cleared and the ammunition stored separately," he said. "In this case, the procedure was not followed correctly."

    One witness said he heard the shot and immediately felt a few moments of fear and concern, saying a gunshot at the airport certainly grabs your attention.

    "It got a little busy there for a minute, got a little sketchy, but didn't affect airport operations that much," Korzep said. "Of course you had the police and fire response, but flights were not affected in any way."

    Airport police and crime scene investigators taped off the area for about an hour while they gathered evidence. Korzep says the traveler who owns the firearm is being questioned by airport police. The city prosecutor will screen the case for potential charges.

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    I am curious who is handling the gun in the pictures. In the second picture he has his finger inside the trigger guard, which should only happen when on target and ready to shoot.

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    rpyne wrote:
    I am curious who is handling the gun in the pictures. In the second picture he has his finger inside the trigger guard, which should only happen when on target and ready to shoot.
    You like that? This one is even better! :P


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    Yes, the box looks like an XD box. They don't know if he droped it or pulled the trigger, it being an XD I think he released the mag then dry-fired it and forgot it was loaded. IMO I seen a guy drop a loaded XD9mm not from very high 6" and it did not discharge when he droped it twice during a training drill.

    It appears that Cop has that gun resting on his knee, or is it just the angle?
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    Not only is the muzzle damn near pointing at his knee, in the first and third photo he is pointing it at another officer.

    Muzzle awareness FAIL!


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    SGT Jensen wrote:
    Not only is the muzzle damn near pointing at his knee, in the first and third photo he is pointing it at another officer.

    Muzzle awareness FAIL!

    I hope this is not one of the "COPS" Who advertise on KSL for their CFP Classes Taught by "COPS"

    Like Cops understand gun safety more then us cilivians & NRA Instructors! I can not stand those advertising tactics "Taught by COPS"
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    They are professionals and know what they are doing. That is why I enjoy them taking my handguns from me when I am stopped. It is all in the name of safety.

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    kwikrnu wrote:
    They are professionals and know what they are doing. That is why I enjoy them taking my handguns from me when I am stopped. It is all in the name of safety.

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    SGT Jensen wrote:
    rpyne wrote:
    I am curious who is handling the gun in the pictures. In the second picture he has his finger inside the trigger guard, which should only happen when on target and ready to shoot.
    You like that? This one is even better! :P

    Hey SGT, everyone knows it's safe to put your finger on the trigger when you're on target AND when you are holding the slide back. (sarcasm)

    I used to be a cop and we had several bullet holes in different places at the P.D. My favorite was in our city hall where we had multiple striated lines going down the wall from an officer firing off a round of 00 buck from his 12 gauge.

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    rpyne wrote:
    I am curious who is handling the gun in the pictures. In the second picture he has his finger inside the trigger guard, which should only happen when on target and ready to shoot.
    In some handguns you have to pull the trigger to release the slide for removal.
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    I don't see how the gun could have gone off by dropping the firearm. There are 3 features that restrict that from happening on the gun. I own an XD and do not believe it discharged simply by dropping the firearm. I suppose it could have been a Manuf. defect...And great reporting by the media that it was a "GLOCK"

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    Bookman wrote:
    rpyne wrote:
    I am curious who is handling the gun in the pictures. In the second picture he has his finger inside the trigger guard, which should only happen when on target and ready to shoot.
    In some handguns you have to pull the trigger to release the slide for removal.

    This is the case with the XD.
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    I will bet he pulled the trigger and then dropped the gun when it scared the crap out of him.

    I don't believe a modern gun can go off by dropping it, if so it has a problem and should be sent to the factory for repair or replacement.

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    I will bet he pulled the trigger and then dropped the gun when it scared the crap out of him.

    They don't know if he droped it or pulled the trigger, it being an XD I think he released the mag then dry-fired it and forgot it was loaded. IMO

    I saw a guy drop a loaded XD9mm not from very high 6" and it did not discharge that happened twice during a training drill.



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    They don't know if he droped it or pulled the trigger, it being an XD I think he released the mag then dry-fired it and forgot it was loaded. IMO
    THEY, might not know but I bet HE does

    And I agree with your assessment. I guess he could have dropped it and in catching it he grabbed the grip and his finger went to the trigger and in the haste of catching it also pulled the trigger. I think pulling the trigger is the only way this gun "went off":?

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    Walther wrote:
    I guess he could have dropped it and in catching it he grabbed the grip and his finger went to the trigger and in the haste of catching it also pulled the trigger.
    With a firearm without a grip safety, I could buy that. The odds of depressing both the grip safety and the trigger while trying to catch a falling gun seem mighty slim to me.

    Pulled the trigger, THEN dropped it, almost certainly.

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    Jblack44 wrote:
    Bookman wrote:
    rpyne wrote:
    I am curious who is handling the gun in the pictures. In the second picture he has his finger inside the trigger guard, which should only happen when on target and ready to shoot.
    In some handguns you have to pull the trigger to release the slide for removal.
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    This is the case with the XD.
    Yeah but that's clearly not what that cop is doing. First you lock the slide back, then you rotate the takedown pin, then you drop the slide, THEN you pull the trigger. There is no way that what we see is a careful execution of that procedure.

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    Not only is the muzzle damn near pointing at his knee, in the first and third photo he is pointing it at another officer.

    Muzzle awareness FAIL!

    SGT Jensen,

    I would like to point out to you, and others, that there is no muzzle in/on this firearm to be aware of. The firearm in the picture/video does not have a barrel or a guiderod.
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    Double Post.

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    SGT Jensen wrote:





    Hmmm, Either that is the chamber in the ejection port, or the other side of the slide. HMMM.

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    No, there is clearly a barrel in that shot.

    However, later when the slide is locked back it looks to be lacking the barrel.

    You know, at first I had it in my head that the XD can look like that from a certain angle (I was thinking the barrel looks like the dust cover from a certain angle), but after playing with mine, I can't make the guide rod and barrel vanish so completely.

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    Optical illusions it appears.

    Last I remember, you aren't supposed to be able to assemble the slide and frame without the barrel, but I've never tried it and could be wrong.

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    With the XD, they can be "assembled", but the slide doesn't stay where it normally would lock into battery -- the striker spring pushes it about 1/2" back. However, the slide will lock on to the frame without the barrel, and move back and forth.

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    Jblack44 wrote:
    Bookman wrote:
    rpyne wrote:
    I am curious who is handling the gun in the pictures. In the second picture he has his finger inside the trigger guard, which should only happen when on target and ready to shoot.
    In some handguns you have to pull the trigger to release the slide for removal.

    This is the case with the XD.
    Yeah, I still don't like that part of the take down when cleaning mine. However, the loaded-chamber indicator on top, and the pin sticking out of the rear, is a pretty good indicator of when it's loaded and the striker is primed to fire. The XD is certainly not a sidearm that I would want an inexperienced person handling. When I first got one, it took me several weeks of casual carry before I finally had enough faith in the USA safety system to carry it with a round in the pipe. It's just one more reason I don't want to be disarmed by LEO after sheeple send out a MWAG call. The chances of a ND go through the roof when that happens.

    From my experience, the guy at the airport would have had to have a grip on the gun and disengauged both the grip and trigger safeties in order for the striker to let loose and set the round off. Methinks the guy who messed up is covering his arse with a tall tale of "accidental discharge after dropping". Most modern guns will not discharge from dropping them, XD included. They would never be able to duplicate what happened according to the story by dropping one. I would put money on that.

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