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    When I went to Young Kim's Run and Shoot shindig this last week I stayed and watched the AR etc shoot in the afternoon. Saw the CX4 up close for the first time and got pregnant then and there but like is often the case I just didn't realize it at the time.

    On my next trip to West Coast Armory range in Bellevue they had one for rent and it's there that I tested positive.

    Baby is due this coming Monday. The doctor was gunbroker.com and it was a healthy CX4/9mm/includes top rail/NIB/hard case for $649 plus fees and weighed in at 5 3/4 lbs. I will be shopping for eyeglasses (co-witness) and clothes and other goodies for the darlin at the next Puyallup show I think.

    What is your story?

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    I've wanted one of these for the longest time. I just love the idea of being able to standardize on a single caliber. I came really close to pulling the trigger last weekend at Cabelas. Since my daily carry is a Kimber 1911, I will go the .45 route. Of course having 12K rounds in the safe doesn't hurt either!!

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    did the one you saw at the run and shoot shindig look anything like this????? congrats on your purchase......i hope you love it as much as i love mine







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    Yes it did. I am still in the long distance romance stage. I expect delivery this week. My girlfriend is already making eyes at it.

    2nd best time - buying accessories!

    Is that an eotech? Suggestions on optics?


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    steble01 wrote:
    did the one you saw at the run and shoot shindig look anything like this????? congrats on your purchase......i hope you love it as much as i love mine





    Which EoTech is that, S01? How do you like it on the CX4?

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    Hendo wrote:
    Yes it did. I am still in the long distance romance stage. I expect delivery this week. My girlfriend is already making eyes at it.

    2nd best time - buying accessories!

    Is that an eotech? Suggestions on optics?
    Yes sir that would be an EOtech....that would be the same exact one you saw at the shoot.......I was the guy shooting it I wish I would have known you were that interested in it because I would have let you shoot it (I let 2 others play with it). My offer still stands with the green dot I have. You are more than welcome to play with it to see if you like a co witness setup. I can bring it along if we get together at the range. Did you have any luck finding stuff at the show???

    HankT - That is an EOtech 512 with a GG&G lens cover. And I absolutely love it.




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    EOtech 512 with GG&G lens cover
    Full Beretta rail kit (top, sides, and bottom)
    Midwest rail mounted sling adapter
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    Specter SOP 3 point sling

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    Looks like it would be fun to shoot, if not to expensive on ammo, and you could find a large capacity clip.
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    20 round mags, and about half of what it costs to shoot .223........not to mention a LOT easier to clean and more dependable than an AR...and i can shoot at indoor ranges when its cold out.....i am happy with my "space gun"

    dont get me wrong, i love AR's as much as the next guy......but for just messing around and having fun......you cant beat the CX4

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    You had the new shroud on it at the Kim shoot didn't you? Threw me off.

    Now the new shround does not fit into the hard case - right? Wonder what Beretta was thinking. What did you do with your old one?
    I have to wait for the Puyallup show later in March.

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    nope, same shroud as the one i sent you a link for. its the only one that fits in the factory hard case.....the factory silencer looking one doesnt......go figure:?

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    steble01 wrote:
    20 round mags, and about half of what it costs to shoot .223........not to mention a LOT easier to clean and more dependable than my ARs...and i can shoot at indoor ranges when its cold out.....i am happy with my "space gun"

    dont get me wrong, i love AR's as much as the next guy......but for just messing around and having fun......you cant beat the CX4
    Fixed.

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    i dont want to get too deep into reliability issues with AR's......please tell me you own a CX4 and an AR to compare with before making that comment

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    Okay,I am probably burned out looking at all the different websites and accesories.

    Do you know ifthe previous factory shroud (EU00018) when installed if it fits in the case?

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    I will look into it.....

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    i havent been able to find much on the subject.....it may or may not fit. i know thats not the answer you are looking for, but i DO know the shroud pictured on my CX above WILL fit in the factory hard case. it is made by these guys http://www.nortje.com/Products/Shrouds/SHROUDS.htm

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    steble01 wrote:
    20 round mags, and about half of what it costs to shoot .223........not to mention a LOT easier to clean and more dependable than an AR...and i can shoot at indoor ranges when its cold out.....i am happy with my "space gun"

    dont get me wrong, i love AR's as much as the next guy......but for just messing around and having fun......you cant beat the CX4
    So you have less rounds. You have a round traveling 2,000 fps less with only a third of the energy. I have no issues cleaning either rifle, one does not take me longer then the other.

    steble01 wrote:
    i dont want to get too deep into reliability issues with AR's......please tell me you own a CX4 and an AR to compare with before making that comment
    I have an AR with over a thousand rounds with out so much as a hic-up. No jams. No fail to fire. No fail to feed.



    I have no problem with you loving the rifle and having fun with it, but to try to compare it to a military platform rifle is comparing apples to your truck tires. They aren't even in the same genre.

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    David.Car wrote:
    steble01 wrote:
    20 round mags, and about half of what it costs to shoot .223........not to mention a LOT easier to clean and more dependable than an AR...and i can shoot at indoor ranges when its cold out.....i am happy with my "space gun"

    dont get me wrong, i love AR's as much as the next guy......but for just messing around and having fun......you cant beat the CX4
    So you have less rounds. You have a round traveling 2,000 fps less with only a third of the energy. I have no issues cleaning either rifle, one does not take me longer then the other.

    steble01 wrote:
    i dont want to get too deep into reliability issues with AR's......please tell me you own a CX4 and an AR to compare with before making that comment
    I have an AR with over a thousand rounds with out so much as a hic-up. No jams. No fail to fire. No fail to feed.



    I have no problem with you loving the rifle and having fun with it, but to try to compare it to a military platform rifle is comparing apples to your truck tires. They aren't even in the same genre.
    Please heed your own advice brother.....I have no problems with AR's......at all. The only thing I compared between the two was reliability issues and cost to shoot, which, I am sure you understand is a valid point to compare between any two rifles.

    My first response was to answer the question about round capacity and expense of shooting........Am I not aloud to answer???? Of course its got less energy and distance. Thats a given when comparing pistol caliber cartridge to a rifle caliber.

    I have cleaned both AR's and CX4's extensively. I can personally tell you that the CX4 will take a LOT less time and effort. But I suppose that is my own personal experience. Maybe after you own a CX4 and clean it versus your AR you can share your thoughts on which is easiest for you???

    Not meaning to poke and prod either, but 1000 rounds is a proverbial blip in the life of a well cared for firearm. I am glad you have had no problems after 1000........thats the way any rifle, that is worth its salt, is supposed to be.

    And I apologize if it seems I am out of line.......I just get tired of people generalizing and bashing guns they have never personally owned. We will just say that I have never met anyone who owns/owned a CX4 and has hated it. It is what it is, a good home defender (if you so choose) and an awesome range toy (which is why I have mine).


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    Thanks Steble. No problem. I will get the one that fits in the case.

    David.Car - speaking for me - the AR type is great for what it does. I like the CX4 because my primary need at this point is not a military platform rifle able to shoot 500 yards + and penetrate through 3 apartments and cost me a lot for ammo to practice.

    I need a reliable defense weapon that will be effective up to 100 yards which for me iswell within 99% of my probable need and I can use inexpensive 9mm that matches my handgun ammo to practice, practice, practice.

    They are different creatures and perfectly fit different needs.

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    steble01 wrote:
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    Please heed your own advice brother.....I have no problems with AR's......at all. The only thing I compared between the two was reliability issues and cost to shoot, which, I am sure you understand is a valid point to compare between any two rifles.

    My first response was to answer the question about round capacity and expense of shooting........Am I not aloud to answer???? Of course its got less energy and distance. Thats a given when comparing pistol caliber cartridge to a rifle caliber.

    I have cleaned both AR's and CX4's extensively. I can personally tell you that the CX4 will take a LOT less time and effort. But I suppose that is my own personal experience. Maybe after you own a CX4 and clean it versus your AR you can share your thoughts on which is easiest for you???

    Not meaning to poke and prod either, but 1000 rounds is a proverbial blip in the life of a well cared for firearm. I am glad you have had no problems after 1000........thats the way any rifle, that is worth its salt, is supposed to be.

    And I apologize if it seems I am out of line.......I just get tired of people generalizing and bashing guns they have never personally owned. We will just say that I have never met anyone who owns/owned a CX4 and has hated it. It is what it is, a good home defender (if you so choose) and an awesome range toy (which is why I have mine).
    First, I was simply responding to a post brought up by you in where you state that the Storm is a more reliable weapon platform then the AR-15. In which I state the facts about the different rifles ballistics and then remind you they are two completely different types of firearms.

    If you simply had stated "It is a fun rifle that shoots cheaper ammo then most common rifle calibers and yes you can get extended mags that hold 20 rounds" then none of this would even come into play. But since you decided to make a remark about the reliability of a rifle that is nothing like the storm, I again state. Perhaps you should just refrain from making comparences that aren't even in the same genre.

    For example: My BB gun is more reliable then your blow gun. That remark is stupid... Just like yours.

    Moving on, yes I have dissasembled cleaned and reassembled both platforms a number of times. Considering they come apart in a very similar manner I have no idea how you can claim one is easier then the other. On both platforms you can seperate the upper from the lower with pins. Then with an AR you simply pull the bolt carrier out of the upper and with the storm you slide basically the whole firing chamber out of the upper... There really is very little cleaning difference at all.

    As for round count, almost anyone involved with firearms will be able to tell you the most common occurence of failures will be during the so called break in period and then after the parts have been used to failure.

    As one quite familiar withthe AR platform I can tell you the most common occurences of failure are ammunition and a failed magazine. If it is failing for any other reason it is most likely your fault for installing something incorrectly.

    As for you being tired of people bashing other firearms, well ain't you just the worlds biggest hypocrite? Considering the beginning of any bashing in this thread, and in fact the only bashing I still see is you commenting that the Storm is a more reliable firearm platform then the AR-15.



    Hendo: I never said anything negative about the Storm, it is a fun rifle. I would not rely on it as a home defense weapon simply because if I want a handgun caliber in the home I will go with a handgun, and if I want the benefits of a rifle I will go with an acutal rifle caliber.

    As for wall penetration, remember that any round that will be effective on a human targetwill always penetrate through any interior walls.Also be aware that 9mm will penetrate just as far (or farther)as 00 buck in a shotgun. Check box o truth for demonstrations showing penetration of certain calibers on interior walls.

    But as always use what you have and what you are most comfortable with.

    And as to "They are different creatures and perfectly fit different needs." That is what I said in my first post before Mr. Uppity went off on his hissy fit.

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    David.Car - honestly no need to overreact and call names. Agree to disagree not escalate and demean. Unknot those knickers - you'll speak in a lower voice.



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    OHH Mr. Car - The bashing did not start with me. It started with a picture.......and you still haven't proved the point of reliability issues. We will just say that one of the two rifles in question has a questionable reliability reputation, especially when it is shrunk down to a 16 inch carbine version.

    Again, I only compared the cost of ammo, and previously mentioned reliability rate. I did not once say that the CX4 is a better battle field rifle than the equivalent AR.....because it is not. That must be something you assumed I was saying.....and in that case I apologize if i wasnt clear enough.

    You have correctly listed two of the most common causes of failure for the AR, ammo and mags......both of which DO NOT plague the CX4. You forgot to mention the 3rd which is the constant cleaning and lubrication required to keep your AR running which is another thing that does not plague the CX4.

    Judging from your description of cleaning methods, I highly doubt you have spent any time cleaning a CX4. AR's and CX's DO NOT break down the same way at all. The AR requires removal of multiple pins as compared to the CX requiring the removal of only ONE. Upper and lower mate by sliding the top onto the bottom from the front on rails.

    I remember mentioning that I love AR's probably as much as you do. I only brought up the reliability point, which by your own admission, is well know. How you consider that bashing is beyond me. Not to mention the fact that there is even an aftermarket for AR reliability fixes including piston conversion kits.

    I figure ammo prices and reliability between two CARBINES is an appropriate comparison to discuss.....sorry you dont see it that way. I have refrained from calling people names and calling posts stupid.......you might want to reconsider your actions before calling me a hypocrite.





    Hendo - I think you maybe making the best choice as far as the shroud goes. It is the cheapest and best looking version IMO. Those Beretta branded ones are real hard to find and they are pretty pricey.

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    That is one sweet looking carbine. Does it take beretta 92 magazines or does it need to take the PX mags?

    EDIT: I would look for myself, I'm not that lazy, but I am at work and for some reason opencarry is one of the few "weapon" related sites I can view here.

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    There are two basic versions taking either the PX4 or the 92 style mags. There are also inserts available to convert one to the other. The CX4 mags also fit the corresponding Beretta model handgun.

    Bargains can be had from $500 used, depending on accesories, and from $650 new about.

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    Hendo hit the nail on the head........ The .45 model accepts 8045 Cougar mags

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