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  • Smith & Wesson

    3 5.66%
  • Kimber

    8 15.09%
  • Springfield Armory

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Thread: 1911 Pistols? Under 700$

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    Ive been looking into everything from S&W to Kimber to Armscorp(Rock Island)...i just wanted to see what info i could gather from real people...not google

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    For that price point: Springfield Mil-Spec.

    Great pistol and great warranty.

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    Springfield Mil-Spec is the best choice in that price range. No doubt.

    Good luck even finding a decent Kimber for that price...and even if you could I'd prefer the Springer.

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    I have heard several people say their Rock Island and Taurus 1911's were great. I have a springfield that cost a bit more than 700 but a similar model can be had for about that much.

    There are different models cheaper but this one is the one I was referring to as similar to mine. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=158879058

    Here is a taurus: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=158930647

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    I heard a lot of good things about Taurus, but also a lot of bad ones too. And I mean really bad ones - like it can go full auto on you. My favorite local store doesn't evensell it at all because of this.

    While it might not be true, I would rather not take this chance of a carry gun. Never heard anything bad about Springfields, but they are a little hard to find.

    I personally had the same dillemma a year and a half ago and my choice was Kimber. I got Kimber Custom II for just over $700. Springfields with same options run a little more than that. Mil-spec Springfields are cheaper, but they aremil-spec, so theydon't have any of the goodies you'd expecton a modern 1911. Plus, they are damn hard tofind sometimes.

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    Personally, I think RIA makes better guns than Kimber. Things like proper function, properly tuned extractors, steel mainspring housing lead me to this conclusion.

    It doesn't hurt that the RIA Tactical is a full-featured 1911 easily in your price point.

    RIA owners tend to like their guns more than Taurus owners, I've noticed. I love my two.

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    I understand the OP set the arbitrary price of under $700. There are many good guns out there for just a bit more.

    Don't count out Colts http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=158553821

    I got my Para Big Hawg for $785. If you browse gunbroker.com or other auction sites and come across a good deal you can get "the" gun you want for a great price. I originally bought a Springfield (which I like) before I found a good deal on a Colt. Both were new and the Colt was only about $100 more. So go with the gun you want and keep an eye open. If it doesn't come available in your timeframe you can fall back on other "good" options.

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    I'll put my vote in for Springfield, as I carry the GI model. Only downside is the dark combat sights. I'd spring for the next one up, but only for that reason. I've only ever had a FTE with Wolf, but since then I've been using only Wilson Combat magazines and brass cased ammo, and no problem.

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    aktion wrote:
    I'll put my vote in for Springfield, as I carry the GI model. Only downside is the dark combat sights. I'd spring for the next one up, but only for that reason. I've only ever had a FTE with Wolf, but since then I've been using only Wilson Combat magazines and brass cased ammo, and no problem.
    The GI models are nice guns, but the better sights and lowered ejection port are definately worth the upgrade.

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    Hands down, the best buy for that kind of moneyare the Metro Arms 1911's. Metro Arms is a Philippine manufacturer that make firearms that are a step up in quality from Armscor (RIA). They're sold in this country as American Classic or Firestorm (not to be confused with the old Spanish Firestorm) and come in both Government and Deluxe models. With just a little shopping they can be had for $400 or less.




    The one my son has is carried daily and has operated flawlessly right out of the box with both the factory supplied mag (Italian made, I forget the name) and also surprisingly with the cheapest $6 "mil-spec surplus" we can find at gun shows. And with the money you save you can still get some nice grips, extra mags and a holster.

    Definitely two thumbs up.
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    The Philippines is definitely a good place to get quality guns at a low price.

    However, I'd say "hands down" is a little strong for two guns which are essentially in the same price/quality bracket (give or take).

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=496025

    I love these inexpensive 1911s, but nobody take anybody's word for it. Go inspect a few, see what suits your fancy.

    BTW, the Italian mfg is almost certainly ACT-MAGs. They build the mag bodies for Novak's, Wolff, and at least one other if I recall.

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    IMO Rock Island pistols are an excellent choice. The tactical models come with good sights, extended beavertail, upgraded hammer and trigger. They also come with a lifetime warranty and excellent customer service. Several posts say "RIA's are excellent guns for the money." Remember these guns are made in the Philippines where labor is cheap. If they were made here in the US, they would be $700 and up all day long. Would that make you feel better buying one?

    Again, I don't think you could go wrong with a Rock Island.

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    I agree with the RIA suggestion. I don't know what it is about their pistols, but the way they feel in my hand and the recoil just feels smoother compared to any Kimbers, Springers, and GSRs I've shot.

    Just my $.02. Like everyone says, "Don't buy a gun unless you've shot it!"

    And good luck with your purchase. You can't go wrong with a John Browning design.

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    I love my Springfield Mil-Spec, got it used at a great price and they dont come with many bells and whistles so... if you're the kind of guy who likes to customize things this gives you a perfect place to start. I've done a few addons to mine and have it pretty close to the way I want it now. It's accurate, reliable and a dream to shoot. The Mil-Spec is with the extra cash too, you get higher 3 dot sights, lowered and flared ejection port, beveled magwell, polished feed ramp and the slide serrarations are angled to match the grip instead of straight up and down... more asthetically pleasing I think.

    Here's mine!



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    PT1911AR and Llama MicroMax. (the MicroMax is a shrunken 1911)

    If it's not JB, it's not good enough.
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    SA is hard to beat for a Good entry. But good deals can be had on used guns. Great deals can be had if you have the time to wait.

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    I'll chime in for Springfield Armory Inc. as well.

    You can find Kimbers available for that price if you are patient and find one on sale, but the Springfields should always be around that price.

    EDIT: I voted for a Kimber, because that's the 1911 I prefer, but if the $700 price ceiling is firm, Springfield Armory gets my vote without a doubt.

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    As a RIA owner, I am quite please with mine. Have been for a couple of years now.

    I just wish it had a front rail. Then again, it wouldn't fit in my Serpa if it did. Best $400 I ever spent.


    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    Getting a reliable 1911 for around $700 could be a difficult task. I don't just consider the cost of the gun in the overall cost. I include the break-in period--which includes ammo, range fees and gunsmithing.

    The good news is that once you get a holster it will fit any 1911 (assuming a non-railed
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    Springfield Armory Compact:

    Gunsmith couldn't get this to run. I did my 500 round break-in and it never got through a magazine without a failure to feed.

    Springfield Armory Loaded (M9109):

    It needed break-in, but only 150 rounds or so. It worked well until 1000-1200 rounds or so. It started jamming badly. I tried different mags and so forth. I suspect the actual problem was the extractor needed tuning. I don't know if there were other problems.

    Colt XSE Stainless:

    Worked fine with all ammo I tried. I purchased it used with around 600 rounds on it. My only gripe was the goofy beavertail...it pressed downward on the web of my hand. It is the only change I'd make to the gun.

    A friend of mine has two S&W 1911's. Both needed the plunger tube changed. While he was at it, he removed all the MIM parts.

    Another friend has the Colt WW I Repro. It had some issues in the first 200 rounds, as did his Kimber Warrior. Both seemed to have settled down.

    Several of us have become convinced that a high end 1911 from a reputable shop that provides excellent service is the way to go. The reason is that you will get the EXACT gun you want that is tuned and ready to go.

    You should research the Springfield Armory GI series of guns:


    http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=97065

    http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=259866


    Does anyone here actually believe that the Founders were sitting around in John Adams' tavern UNARMED because they believed a bar should be a gun free zone?

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    Replacing that beaver tail is not that hard.

    As for the other two, did you ever do a throat/ramp polish?

    http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=302272

    POLISH, not grind.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    Various actions were taken by the 'smith and the jamming continued.

    I should have sent the Loaded to SA for work, but I was done at that point.

    My next gun will be a Fusion Firearms gun.


    Does anyone here actually believe that the Founders were sitting around in John Adams' tavern UNARMED because they believed a bar should be a gun free zone?

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    Heard GREAT things about Taurus PT 1911 so I bought one at the gun show last weekend.

    I took it to the range and about every 5th round failed to extract (the extractor slid over the case rim), causing it to be completely out of action. The next round in the magazine hung up on the empty case requiring me to pullthe slide completely back, drop the magazine, let the slide go home and then manually pull the slide back to extract the empty case. NOT GOOD FOR A DEFENSIVE WEAPON!!

    This happened with several brands of magazines and ammunition. It did not happen with Remington Golden Sabers, although I only fired 25 of those rounds. This is not good as they are prohibitively expensive.

    I researched this problem on the internet and found a blog from someone with the same problem and one answer is to replace the extractor with one made by Wilson. My neighbor is an armor for the Homeland Security Agency andcould possibly do the job.

    Has anyone else had this problem? I do not want to send it back to Taurus. It IS a very accurate pistol, but I would NOT recommend buying one right now.

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    My choice is RIA GI spec 1911. I have two. Inexpensive, dependable and reliable, they shoot as well as my Colt 1911A1.

    Many Colt series 70 parts will fit the RIA 1911.

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    Don Barnett wrote:
    Heard GREAT things about Taurus PT 1911 so I bought one at the gun show last weekend.

    I took it to the range and about every 5th round failed to extract (the extractor slid over the case rim), causing it to be completely out of action. The next round in the magazine hung up on the empty case requiring me to pullthe slide completely back, drop the magazine, let the slide go home and then manually pull the slide back to extract the empty case. NOT GOOD FOR A DEFENSIVE WEAPON!!

    This happened with several brands of magazines and ammunition. It did not happen with Remington Golden Sabers, although I only fired 25 of those rounds. This is not good as they are prohibitively expensive.

    ......

    Has anyone else had this problem? I do not want to send it back to Taurus. It IS a very accurate pistol, but I would NOT recommend buying one right now.
    Yes, it's called "the break-in period".

    Take that gun you just bought that's probably been sitting on shelves and tables for months, clean it, lube it (Break-Free for mine), put a little extra oil (actual gun oil) where the slide and the frame mate, and go back out.

    I had to do this for my XD-40 when it was given to me after it had been sitting in a box for many months. A clean up, a light dab of extra oil, and I have not had another problem out of it.

    Same with my RIA 1911, and a friend of mine's PT-92, two guns which I would also recommend.

    Perfectly normal.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    Thanks...I'll have fun fixing it!

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