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    :what::what:

    It would be interesting to see what would happen if ordinary citizens were OCingthere. Would the "boys" be quite so frisky?






    From The Times
    February 27, 2010


    The gun-toting boys from Brazil who rule Rio’s ‘Corner of Fear’










    (Pablo Jacob/Extra/O globo)




    Youths flaunt guns on the streets of Rio de Janeiro


    Dom Phillips in São Paulo

    A boy steps boldly into the night traffic and waves a gun to bring the cars to a halt, clearing a path for a motorcycle which screeches into the intersection. Riding pillion is another boy, brandishing a machinegun.

    Later two teenagers, also riding pillion on motorbikes, flash their guns at other motorists; nearby, a boy can be seen taking aim with a rifle equipped with a telescopic sight. Other youths wander the street smoking crack.

    For residents, the junction between the busy Dom Helder Câmara and dos Democráticos, in North Rio de Janeiro, has become known as the Corner of Fear — and video footage of daily life there has shocked a nation already familiar with guns and violence.

    The latest images, captured by undercover journalists from the Rio tabloid Extra, have exposed the city’s criminal youth culture in a manner that echoes the journalistic investigation featured in the film City of God.

    The age of the criminals — one pistol-toting boy is 12 — is obvious cause for alarm, but so is the seeming impunity with which they act.

    The video footage has provided a glimpse into the city’s underworld that hardly touches Rio’s wealthier citizens.

    Local newspapers rarely show at first hand the violence that permeates the city’s slums (favelas). Since the brutal torture and murder of the journalist Tim Lopes — who was caught filming secretly in the Vila Cruzeiro favela in 2002 — Brazilian reporters have been reluctant to take their cameras into slum areas. Any reports that are filed tend to come from correspondents talking from inside armoured cars, or are images showing the aftermath of a shooting.

    “What is shocking is this parallel power, the fact that they are very young,” said André Cabral De Almeida Cardoso, 41, a teacher. “They are so brazen about it.”

    Valera dos Santos, 34, a maid who lives in a favela in São Paulo, said: “My God, I’ve never seen pictures like this. It’s absurd, they’re just boys.”

    The journalists who captured the images were also taken aback. “Even knowing the reality of what could happen, you are still shocked by the glamour that these weapons represent in the arms of minors,” said Fernando Torres, 27, one of a team of three who spent four nights undercover at the Corner of Fear.

    “These images are desolate,” said Lucy Petroucic, 56, a translator. “These boys have become little Taleban who think they have nothing to lose.”

    Within hours, police arrested one of a group of bandits shown in the video and promised that changes were on the way. Luiz Fernando Pezão, Rio’s Deputy Governor, told reporters that a new police base would open nearby in May

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    The culture, the morals, and the politics of the country are different. What you are being shown is the last stages of the death of "The Rule of Law".

    Folks do not trust the government, the government has completely failed to provide for the people, and the people have decided that instead of revolting against their government they will create a parallel society and system. Instead of expending energy trying to fix the government most folks in Brazil ignore it and run their own system for providing things that the government cannot/will not provide - like running water, health care, a stable currency, and controlling those who break the rules. Of course the rules that the parallel system enforces very rarely look like the kinds of laws the government usually passes. But people have a roof over their heads and food in their bellies most of the time.

    The fortunate thing about the culture/lifestyle/system depicted is that it is localized. The unfortunate thing is that it is spreading and growing because the "citizens" do not consider their established government capable of doing anything about it.

    stay safe.

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    Threatening people by pointing an (assumed loaded) weapon at a crowd around here and you can expect a hail of bullets coming your way.

    These kids must think they're original gangsta's.

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    all that would be needed is a few snipers on some buildings near by, and the problem would be solved

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    khicks wrote:
    all that would be needed is a few snipers on some buildings near by, and the problem would be solved
    Hmmm. The problem would be "solved," KH?

    Wouldn't that just motivate the remaining GTBs to go and get the snipers?

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    HankT wrote:
    khicks wrote:
    all that would be needed is a few snipers on some buildings near by, and the problem would be solved
    Hmmm. The problem would be "solved," KH?

    Wouldn't that just motivate the remaining GTBs to go and get the snipers?
    A sniper will seriously demoralize the enemy when they see their buddys head or chest explode. If they are good the enemy will not even know exactly where the shots are coming from.
    -I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you screw with me, I'll kill you all.
    -Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.
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    Edit: Hank's post was the last one showing when I started writing this.

    How? I think you're forgetting all the steps involved.

    1. Figure out the general direction of the shooter.
    2. Refine your search to pinpoint the location of the shooter.
    3. Decide whether or not to find cover to fire from.
    4. Return fire.
    5. Hope that you're a better or luckier shot than somebody who has a rifle and almost certainly chose an optimum firing location & position.


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    I once saw a candid video from Rio which showed a bunch of cops who had just caught some guy on the street in broad daylight. They cuffed him, dragged him face down between two cars, looked around for a moment, then one cop drew his pistol, aimed, and executed the man with a bullet in the back of his head.

    So there is more than one kind of criminal running around that city pointing guns at people. When the cops are lawless, so is everything else.

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    Tomahawk wrote:
    I once saw a candid video from Rio which showed a bunch of cops who had just caught some guy on the street in broad daylight. They cuffed him, dragged him face down between two cars, looked around for a moment, then one cop drew his pistol, aimed, and executed the man with a bullet in the back of his head.

    So there is more than one kind of criminal running around that city pointing guns at people. When the cops are lawless, so is everything else.
    That showswhy it's good to have a nation of laws.

    Lawlessness breeds more lawlessness.

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