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    what are the ways you carry and draw your pistol and there pros/cons from your experiance or previous knowledge



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    I carry in a holster, I draw with my hand.

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    dougwg wrote:
    I carry in a holster, I draw with my hand.
    oh (haha) thats cool i never thought of that!

    dang do i realy have to spell it out for you (dont start telling me about my spelling mistakes eather i spell badly, i alredy know) like haveing a sholder holster what is it like and a little about how it is to use.

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    Ask silly questions get silly answers.

    Ask well thought out, detailed questions, get well thought out, detailed answers.


    Welcome to OCDO and please enter your location into your profile properly so that you show up as a fellow Michigander.

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    First off you better be specific to Doug which gun he needs to draw. :P

    Now with the serious answer.... practice for yourself and decide which is more comfortable and easiest for you. Advice is always good but it stills comes down to what works for you. I carry cross draw only, w/belt holster, works for me but not everyone.

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    k ill do that now can you answer the q you know im asking. so you know of mendon? it kind of small.

    (to dougwg's second post)


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    I carry cross draw, Vertical Shoulder Holster, Strongside and Smartcarry.

    They all have advantages for diff situations. I am the fastest from crossdraw.
    Anything I post may be my opinion and not the law... you are responsible to do your own verification.

    Blackstone (1753-1765) maintains that "the law holds that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

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    No, I have no idea where it's at.

    As far as the draw stats, I carry/draw in cross draw. I don't use the typical weaver stance. I prefer the "old west" side profile/strong side stance. But again, that's how I've carried and trained for.

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    autosurgeon wrote:
    Vertical Shoulder Holster, Strongside and Smartcarry.
    umm lets say for discussion sake i dont know the meaning of most of what you said.

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    Google the terms ... I don't have pictures of me with the diff rigs on.... but if you google them you should find pictures showing them.
    Anything I post may be my opinion and not the law... you are responsible to do your own verification.

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    I carry on my strong side(right) with a paddle holster slight forward cant OCing everywhere except church(and this may be changing soon). There I carry IWB strong side.

    Most importantly what you carry and how you carry is irrelevant unless you practice drawing and shooting from that position.

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    sprinklerguy28 wrote:
    I carry on my strong side(right) with a paddle holster slight forward cant OCing everywhere except church(and this may be changing soon). There I carry IWB strong side.

    Most importantly what you carry and how you carry is irrelevant unless you practice drawing and shooting from that position.
    Yes this!!
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    Blackstone (1753-1765) maintains that "the law holds that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

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    The Best way? In your hand.

    Sorry doug just trying to 1 up you!
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    I carry stong side as close to the 3:00 position as possible.

    Advantages:

    readily accesible

    decent weapon retention ability

    comfortable

    able to bring gun on target quickly once the holster is cleared

    Disadvantages:

    gun can be grabbed from behind you

    not as comfortable or accesible when driving as someother methods

    I cannot unholster it with my off hand

    I also nowdoa lotof my shooting one handed without using the sights (point shooting). Very often from a low (just clearing the holster) to med high (low chest height)position.

    And this is why:

    Excerpted from "Play A Winning Hand" by Mike Conti, pg. 13 & 14 Guns & Ammo, Handguns 2009 Annual

    The entire concept of the Modern Technique was based on the belief that the core components of the system were as universally applicable for actual combat situations as they were for target shooting on the range. This concept was validated by anecdotes from Modern Technique adherents who had been involved in some type of violent person-on-person incident, stories that were often reported in magazines and books.

    For the past couple of decades, though, law enforcement has documented a less-than stellar performance record during documented, real-world gunfights. In fact, studies conducted by the FBI and other police organizations have consistentely indicated that in actual gunfights, on average the police miss the threat suspect they are shooting at with as many as 85 percent of the rounds they fire--this despite years of documented training using primarily the two-hand hold and other Modern Technique-based practices.

    Whenever this disparity between training methods and standards and actual real-world performance is brought up, proponents of the Modern Technique are quick to blame the individual officer for failing to adhere to his training or to condemn the members of the law enforcementt profession as a whole for failing to adequately train their officers "enough" in the Modern Techinque.

    After having studied this matter in some detail over the past 20 or so years, I've come the conclusion that it's time for us to rethink our dependence upon the two-hand hold, sight-focused school of pistol training becasue it apparently does not adequately prepare the average, armed individual--police officer or law-abiding private citizen--for the realites of violent close-quarters spontaneous events.

    It is critical to remember that while these two-hand techniques may reign supreme on the target range or when hunting, they were not developed for use against armed and dangerous human beings presenting an immediate threat at near to touching distances. For those who desire specifics, let's say distances from seven yards to breath-in-the face close, since statistcs also indicate that more than 80 percent of police-involved shootings occur in this zone, most of these within five feet.

    Several years ago, I reported on some research which indicated that one of the primary reasons sights were not used during actual or simulated close-quarter spontaneous events was becasue the operators reported that they had an overwhelming feeling there was "not enough time" to access and use them.

    It wasn't that the interviewed officers didn't actually have enought time to access the sights. They did have the time, but in their minds they were convinced they did not--despite long, documented histories of being successfully trained to use the sights on the target range.

    It's the difference between training for the range and training for the real world. In the real world, we operate in what Prussian military philosopher Carl von Clausewitz described as the "element of danger." And in this element of danger, the vast majority of humang beings facing an armed and dangerous opponent at close quarters will be naturally and forcefully compelled to stare at that threatening human being during those few fleeting and terryifying moments. More than 13,000 years of evolution--during which human beings often squared off against one another with sharp, pointy sticks--pretty much ensures it.

    We will also tend to crouch, and if we have something small and dangerous in our hand--whether a sharp, pointy stick or a handgun loaded with sharp, pointy bullets--we will more than likely stare open-eyed at that threat while we try to drive our weapon straight toward and into him, usually with one hand.

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    dougwg wrote:
    I carry in a holster, I draw with my hand.
    I draw with crayons.:quirky

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    Openly.

    Its my strong side, My hand is right there all the time to either draw, or retain. Its never concealed, (I hate that), Ill probably move it back up to my hip for summer. My elbow doesnt move back to draw, so I am better protected from behind. The only drawbacks are that it attracts more attension, its a two edged sword really, and that I have to be a little more careful when Im around a nice car so I dont scratch it. Im also careful not to whack some little kid with it in the head as I walk past them in a crowd.It does make it easier to sit down without it poking into a chair, and its much easier to draw from a sitting position. Its funny to wasch peoples expressions when they notice the gun on my lap.

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    Its my strong side, My hand is right there all the time to either draw, or retain. Its never concealed, (I hate that), Ill probably move it back up to my hip for summer. My elbow doesnt move back to draw, so I am better protected from behind. The only drawbacks are that it attracts more attension, its a two edged sword really, and that I have to be a little more careful when Im around a nice car so I dont scratch it. Im also careful not to whack some little kid with it in the head as I walk past them in a crowd.It does make it easier to sit down without it poking into a chair, and its much easier to draw from a sitting position. Its funny to wasch peoples expressions when they notice the gun on my lap.
    Is that the same holster you were using while concealed carrying on the school playground?

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    Bronson
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    thank you your replys are exactly what i am looking for



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    Pat, it is the same holster, reconfigured and adapted to the leg drop mode shown. At the time I was carrying openly at the hip.

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    How to carry your firearm is a very personal thing. You have to try it with your rig and see what you like.My EDC has four different holsters you may find it in on different times and days.

    After you pick something out, do lots of dry-fire practice to sharpen your skills. The best rig in the world is next to useless if you don't know how to use it.

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    stainless1911 wrote:
    Openly.

    Its my strong side, My hand is right there all the time to either draw, or retain. Its never concealed, (I hate that), Ill probably move it back up to my hip for summer. My elbow doesnt move back to draw, so I am better protected from behind. The only drawbacks are that it attracts more attension, its a two edged sword really, and that I have to be a little more careful when Im around a nice car so I dont scratch it. Im also careful not to whack some little kid with it in the head as I walk past them in a crowd.It does make it easier to sit down without it poking into a chair, and its much easier to draw from a sitting position. Its funny to wasch peoples expressions when they notice the gun on my lap.
    See now that set-up would bug the hell out of me. It's cool that it works for you but it sure looks like the gun is flopping around a bit too much for my taste.

    To each his own (but my way is always better :P)

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    To be perfectly honest my Shoulder rig is the most comfortable.
    Anything I post may be my opinion and not the law... you are responsible to do your own verification.

    Blackstone (1753-1765) maintains that "the law holds that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

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    It took a little getting used to. I had a two fold problem. 1, I had to carry openly because I got suspended for something I diddnt do. 2, I feel the reason I got screwed with was because I was OC and thwe cop diddnt like OC. Therefore I wanted to make the gun MORE visible, thus amplifyingthe OC part.:PI have succeeded in that.

    Before the ticket, I had considered CC for the winter months. Now, I havere evaluated my whole position on CC, andrefuse to CC. Now, I take a strong stance against it, and not onlydo I practice and promote OC, I try to discourage CC.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uADb3NyYlSA



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    autosurgeon wrote:
    To be perfectly honest my Shoulder rig is the most comfortable.
    Mine too.

    Older galco single side with wide strap over shoulder.

    Most comfortable. And most concealable.

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