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    Being new to the forum I was wondering why would a person get a PM from "The Skeptic" railing on me for supposedly calling him names. Yet when I back check my posts, I find that my only quotes are to "Shootemup" & "Sonofsy"? Then when you check their born on dates, why good goobledy goop; lo & behold, they're all the SAME...SAME...SAME...the same I tell ya!!!



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    There was a story a couple of weeks ago about democratic/liberal operatives and a new initiative to infiltrate sites like this and to call conservative radio and tv shows...

    i have noticed the same thing, lot's of new memebers that try to say they are pro 2A but are really not!
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    gogodawgs wrote:
    There was a story a couple of weeks ago about democratic/liberal operatives and a new initiative to infiltrate sites like this and to call conservative radio and tv shows...

    i have noticed the same thing, lot's of new memebers that try to say they are pro 2A but are really not!
    I regularly listen to Michael Rivero's radio show, and he has recently been inundated with prank phone calls, some very vulgar. Seems kind of strange to me.
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    I hope there are liberals in the house. After all, gun owners are all welcome here and there are lots of liberal gun owners and carriers.

    A more appropriate topic would be Anti Gunners in da haus' and I have changed the title to be so.



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    jpierce wrote:
    I hope there are liberals in the house. After all, gun owners are all welcome here and there are lots of liberal gun owners and carriers.

    A more appropriate topic would be Anti Gunners in da haus' and I have changed the title to be so.

    And I have edited mine accordingly, Thank You .
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    Lurchiron wrote:
    Being new to the forum I was wondering why would a person get a PM from "The Skeptic" railing on me for supposedly calling him names.

    MODERATOR Please;
    I don't understand much of the quoted post.

    I do listen to a member (more senior than you) complain that he is stalked and harassed here and elsewhere apparently for his participation here.

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    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
    Lurchiron wrote:
    Being new to the forum I was wondering why would a person get a PM from "The Skeptic" railing on me for supposedly calling him names.

    MODERATOR Please;
    I don't understand much of the quoted post.

    I do listen to a member (more senior than you) complain that he is stalked and harassed here and elsewhere apparently for his participation here.
    Not complaining, I believe my6 to be clear; just putting out a heads-up that I believe the 3nom-de-plume's to be by 1 author, namely "The Skeptic".

    He complains using that handle, but what he's complaing about are 2 questions addressed to other accounts(which me thinks are his). Versteh, Master???
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    Nein nope.

    If someone is abusing PM, hiding behind its 'private', then out him and it. It worked fine for me against CLEO 229 and his sockpuppet HenriettaTG. CLEO is apparently mostly gone and Hank had his privates cut off.

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    John, you know my opinion on this. I hope there are anti-gun people here that will learn from our professional attitude about this subject.

    Majority of Americans support gun control, but also support 2A. How is that possible? It's based on ignorance of the subject (plus really good polsters).

    The truth is that there is a relatively small amount of people in the United States who actually want to get rid of guns, but the rest of the people just believe the hype they are told by those type of people.






    jpierce wrote:
    I hope there are liberals in the house. After all, gun owners are all welcome here and there are lots of liberal gun owners and carriers.

    A more appropriate topic would be Anti Gunners in da haus' and I have changed the title to be so.


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    Good point.

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    John, you know my opinion on this. I hope there are anti-gun people here that will learn from our professional attitude about this subject.

    Majority of Americans support gun control, but also support 2A. How is that possible? It's based on ignorance of the subject (plus really good polsters).

    The truth is that there is a relatively small amount of people in the United States who actually want to get rid of guns, but the rest of the people just believe the hype they are told by those type of people.






    jpierce wrote:
    I hope there are liberals in the house. After all, gun owners are all welcome here and there are lots of liberal gun owners and carriers.

    A more appropriate topic would be Anti Gunners in da haus' and I have changed the title to be so.


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    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
    Nein nope.

    If someone is abusing PM, hiding behind its 'private', then out him and it. It worked fine for me against CLEO 229 and his sockpuppet HenriettaTG. CLEO is apparently mostly gone and Hank had his privates cut off.
    Ouch...
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    Lurchiron wrote:
    Being new to the forum I was wondering why would a person get a PM from "The Skeptic" railing on me for supposedly calling him names. Yet when I back check my posts, I find that my only quotes are to "Shootemup" & "Sonofsy"? Then when you check their born on dates, why good goobledy goop; lo & behold, they're all the SAME...SAME...SAME...the same I tell ya!!!



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    That's a VERY old story in usenet. The anti-gunners (and neo-Nazis) frequently had multiple aliases. Sometimes they'd even have their sockpuppets "threaten" each other to prove how "dangerous" gun owners were. One of THOSE idiots once had the sockpuppet that threatened another sockpuppet refer to a private email which a third party sent to the 'victim". BUSTED!

    AHSA has been trolling various firearms related message boards for the last couple of months or so. As usual, they've got boot prints on their crotches.
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    gogodawgs wrote:
    There was a story a couple of weeks ago about democratic/liberal operatives and a new initiative to infiltrate sites like this and to call conservative radio and tv shows...
    And you need to remember that Cass Sunstein, the new Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs published a paper in 2008 for Harvard School of Law, where he details this EXACT sort of thing.

    It's not a conspiracy, folks, when they do it in front of our wide-open eyes...

    In this paper, he advocates that the government should perform "Cognative Infiltration", which essentially means sending moles into internet forums, and infiltrating real groups, and then using these moles to inject negative ideas into these groups and agitate them toward violence and other acts that would discredit them.

    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...act_id=1084585

    So it should come as no surprise that pro-2A forums are seeing a massive increase in these "agent provocateurs". This sort of "CoIntelPro" activity is once again official policy.

    What I find particularly ironic is that the last time a widespread of program of cointelpro was unfurled by the Feds was back in the '60s when it was the "Right" and neo-con fascists like J. Edgar Hoover who were using such strategies to attempt to destroy the civil rights movement, the anti-war movement, and the woman's rights movement.

    Back then, the loudest critics of using this sort of infiltration and agent provocateur activity were the VERY people who are now saying that such activities are essential for the "preservation of national security-"--the "Left".

    So you gotta wonder, has the "tiger changed it's stripes?". If the "Left" of 2010 is using the EXACT SAME techniques to preserve it's position of power and attack the "Right" that the "Right" used to attack the "Left" forty years ago, then what are we to think? Such duplicitous, underhanded government-sponsored conspiracies of engineered disinformation were BAD back then but somehow have magically transformed into righteous action now?

    Or are such actions EVERY BIT as despicable today as they were in the 1960's, and the FACT of the matter is that the people who are using them today in our government are NOT at all who they say they are (any more than the people who used them in the '60s were)? Are they are perhaps just posing as "liberals," but have in fact become the SAME types of evil, controlling sociopaths whom they decried in the 1960's?

    It's not a "conspiracy" if they are doing it right in front of our faces in full view. There is another word for that--when the government just trots their programs of control, disinformation and engineered mayhem out in plain sight as a way to confuse, divide, and control the public. When the disdain for "The People" reaches such a fever pitch that the controlling elite just drop all pretense of civility, and begin to move in a bald-faced program of lies, manipulation and distortion of the truth, we have a word for that.

    It's called Totalitarianism...

    We SHOULD be afraid. We are seeing the final unfurling of a nearly century-long program of scientific dictatorship being implemented. And if you are't on the "inside" then you are going to be left on the "outside".

    We have a wide-ranging cabal of people in the media, in Washington, and in the board rooms of major corporations who are SO clinically sociopathic that they no longer believe they need to hide their actions anymore. Their hatred and disdain for the "common man" is so fundamentally deep that they actually believe that they have the RIGHT and OBLIGATION to control us like sheep. They believe that it's perfectly OK to lie to us, to rob us of our wealth, to poison our food and water, to brainwash our children, and to ultimately destroy our way of life because they don't really consider us to be fully human (like they think they are). They actually believe that the human race has begun to split into TWO distinct and different sub-species, and that anyone who is not part of their little anointed cadre of sociopathic uber-menchen are somehow "not quite human" and therefore not worthy of things like basic human rights.

    This isn't just a bunch of power-hungry liberals, folks. They ARE NOT really liberals or leftists or whatever false-flag nametag you want to paste on them. They are cut from the SAME cloth that the Neo-Cons are, they are brewed from the same beans that the Soviets were, they are no different than the National Socialsts were. They are a self-anointed elite who believe themselves to be more fully evolved than the rest of the population, and who believe in their heart of hearts that it is their DUTY and OBLIGATION to keep the unwashed hordes in-line and in check.

    I weep for the people of the world. We've signed away our very souls, and most folks don't realize that the very people who claim to be our saviors are, in fact, EXACTLY THE SAME as the demons they claim to protect us from...
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
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    Yes, Dreamer, and there are a few people that are being watched on this board. I have made jokes in the past about calling people "anarchist" but there are agitators from both ends of the spectrum that are trying to either destroy this movement or recruit for their questionable causes, including some Neo-Nazi type militia groups.

    We need to be vigilant in our ascertation that OC is not a violence oriented movement at all, and that we are just citizens carrying weapons as we feel is our right. Guns can be used for violence, but they can also be carried by police officers, civilians, clergy members in order to protect the general public.

    I'm a pacifist, and a clergy member in another life. I'm very much involved with law enforcement and LEOs, and have been involved in the arrest of several child killers and child molestors in NYC, where I served on local and federal task forces. I carry a sidearm to protect myself, plus to protect others and hope that it always prevents violence first. It's been years since I've fired a weapon at someone, and I hope every day that I never will have to even draw it again in self-defense.

    I also have been a victim of persecution by an anti-gun person who I rented a house from, who went found I had a firearm made up stories. She accused me within a week of brandishing a firearm, police impersonation, being a cult leader (I'm Buddhist) and attempted an illegal eviction. Soon afterward she settled out of court on my lawsuit, and we moved -- and she violated the settlement and kept $15,000 of my money, putting me in serious financial harm. She was the owner of major vegas security company, when I ran background checks she had personally given thousands to the Brady Campaign.

    So I have a lot of reasons to be angry, but daily I focus on our similarities and working together no matter what.



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