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    Well here's another disturbing trend....

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lo...-86415902.html





    Bill to repeal 1-gun-a-month rule fails to advance
    By: DENA POTTER
    Associated Press
    03/04/10 7:10 PM EST

    RICMOND, VA. — A Senate subcommittee created to block pro-gun legislation voted Thursday to shoot down numerous proposals to loosen the state's gun laws, including a measure to repeal Virginia's ban on buying more than one handgun per month.

    Republicans and gun rights advocates cried foul when the subcommittee was created earlier in the week and given the authority to kill bills without a vote of the full committee. Though the practice is common in the House, the Senate rules call for subcommittees to make recommendations to the full committee.

    One likened the effortless rejection of 10 pro-gun bills to the "Ides of March," the fateful day Julius Caesar was assassinated. Republicans suggested they would try to demand a full committee vote on Monday.

    "If the Senate can't follow their own rules you start wondering why people should follow the Senate's rules?" said Philip Van Cleave, president of the pro-gun Virginia Citizens Defense League.

    Brushing off complaints, Senate Courts Committee Chairman Sen. Henry Marsh said he would not put the bills on the docket for a vote.

    "I don't make my decisions based on criticism," Marsh said after the meeting. "I make my decisions based on what I think is right."

    It was Democrats' only hope of killing some of the measures because even though they have a 10-5 majority on the full committee. At least three party members regularly vote with Republicans to approve pro-gun bills.

    For Democrats and gun opponents, the major victory was killing Del. Scott Lingamfelter's repeal of the one-gun-a-month law, enacted in 1993 as Virginia had a reputation as an East Coast armory for violent criminals and homicide rates in the capital city soared.

    Lingamfelter argued that technology has improved since then, with instant background checks keeping guns out of criminals' hands. He said exemptions carved out of the law for everyone from the state's 214,000 concealed handgun permit holders to those who report their guns stolen within 30 days of purchase have "neutered" the law, rendering it useless.

    Criminals don't go to gun stores to buy guns, he argued, leaving only law-abiding citizens to be burdened by the law.

    "I don't think we should ration our Second Amendment rights any more than we ration our First Amendment rights," said Lingamfelter, R-Prince William.

    Only Virginia, Maryland, California and New Jersey limit the number of handguns that can be bought each month. South Carolina repealed its one-gun-a-month law in 2004.

    Other proposals rejected by the subcommittee include:

    _Exempting from federal law any gun manufactured or sold in the state.

    _Shielding from public record information on concealed handgun permit holders.

    _Prohibiting localities from destroying weapons acquired in gun buyback programs without offering them at auction to licensed gun dealers.

    _Allowing gun owners to lock weapons in their vehicles on private property against property owners' objections.

    _Directing the Virginia State Police to come up with a plan to issue lifetime concealed handgun permits instead of requiring renewal every five years.

    _Prohibiting court clerks from asking for any information not required on a concealed handgun permit application.

    _Allowing concealed handgun permit holders to take guns into emergency shelters.

    _Prohibiting localities from banning hunting near subdivisions.

    The bills were part of one of the most ambitious legislative packages in years.

    The General Assembly already has passed bills that will allow concealed guns in bars as long as carriers do not drink alcohol, allow renewal of permits by mail and allow gun owners to lock their firearms in vehicle or boat glove boxes even if they do not have a concealed handgun permit.

    Earlier in the day, another Senate committee advanced a bill to require the State Board of Education to develop a program of firearm safety education for elementary education students.

    The guns-in-bars bill passed the legislature twice before but was vetoed by former Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, a Democrat. Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell has said he would sign the bill.

    "The restaurant bill alone is a big bill for us," Van Cleave said. "We'll be celebrating come July 1st."



    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/ap/repeal-on-buying-more-than-one-gun-per-month-dies-86415902.html#ixzz0hP6mzJ0W

    No one has ever walked away from a gunfight complaining that he brought too much ammo.

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    Sounds like it is time for a concentrated and organized effort to rid the state of Sen. Harry Marsh. It may surprise you what a group of dedicated people going door to door, all concentrated in one district, in the last few weeks before an election can accomplish. Remind people that he violated senate rules to advance his personal agenda.

    Then, the day after the election that removes him from office, hold a press conference and take credit for booting him because of his stance on gun control. It only takes a few of these to change the whole attitude of a state legislature.

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    rpyne wrote:
    Sounds like it is time for a concentrated and organized effort to rid the state of Sen. Harry Marsh. It may surprise you what a group of dedicated people going door to door, all concentrated in one district, in the last few weeks before an election can accomplish. Remind people that he violated senate rules to advance his personal agenda.

    Then, the day after the election that removes him from office, hold a press conference and take credit for booting him because of his stance on gun control. It only takes a few of these to change the whole attitude of a state legislature.
    I am for kicking all them out.
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    This november, the democraps will be looking for new jobs as the Repubs take back the legislature just like the governorship. Then ******** like this guy can reapply for his welfare check.
    "For any man who sheds his blood with me this day shall be my brother...And gentlemen now abed shall think themselves accursed, they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whilst any speaks who fought with us on Crispin's day." Henry V

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    Gunslinger wrote:
    This november, the democraps will be looking for new jobs as the Repubs take back the legislature just like the governorship. Then @#$%s like this guy can reapply for his welfare check.
    If the republicans take back the hill it will be the same old same old. The republicans are JUST as bad as the democrats. WE NEED small government Independents taking those seats not R and D.
    -I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you screw with me, I'll kill you all.
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    Not R and not D, but, just like here, independents are too independent to do what they're told. Vote Constitution Party.

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    hopnpop wrote:
    Bill to repeal 1-gun-a-month rule fails to advance


    Damn, they've got to get rid of that stupid 1 gun a month requirement. I've lived in VA for 25 years now and I've had to buy close to 300 handguns. It's a pretty serious financial burden.


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    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
    Not R and not D, but, just like here, independents are too independent to do what they're told. Vote Constitution Party.
    As much as I'm surprised to, I have to agree. You and I don't normally see eye to eye Doug, but you hit the nail on the head on this one.
    No one has ever walked away from a gunfight complaining that he brought too much ammo.

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    Remington Irons wrote:
    hopnpop wrote:
    Bill to repeal 1-gun-a-month rule fails to advance
    Damn, they've got to get rid of that stupid 1 gun a month requirement. I've lived in VA for 25 years now and I've had to buy close to 300 handguns. It's a pretty serious financial burden.
    Is that sarcasm I'm sensing? You getting cute?
    No one has ever walked away from a gunfight complaining that he brought too much ammo.

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    Remington Irons wrote:
    hopnpop wrote:
    Bill to repeal 1-gun-a-month rule fails to advance


    Damn, they've got to get rid of that stupid 1 gun a month requirement. I've lived in VA for 25 years now and I've had to buy close to 300 handguns. It's a pretty serious financial burden.


    I found it funny also that Virginia enforces the same restriction on it's citizens that my wife does on me...one gun per month.

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    zack991 wrote:
    Gunslinger wrote:
    This november, the democraps will be looking for new jobs as the Repubs take back the legislature just like the governorship. Then @#$%s like this guy can reapply for his welfare check.
    If the republicans take back the hill it will be the same old same old. The republicans are JUST as bad as the democrats. WE NEED small government Independents taking those seats not R and D.
    Not true. Look at the 2A and the Bush appointees to the SC. Look at antigun legislation--which party proposes it? Look at that ugly bitch pelosi and her scumbag band of bootlickers and the stink of corruption in "her" House. Look at oboobacare getting shoved down our throats with 100% Republican opposition. There is such a thing as lesser of evils, like it or not.
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