swillden
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swillden wrote:
Thanks.
swillden wrote:
Anyone want to take a stab at this?
Thanks.
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Travelling To Illinois
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junglebob
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About knives Chicago says it is illegal for those under 18 to have a knife with a blade length of over 2", and for those over 18 to have one over 2 1/2 inches. You may want to go to www.chicityclerk.com/legislation and check out their screwy laws yourself. These are Chicago rules not Illinois. Chicago may soon outlaw plastic sporks.
About knives Chicago says it is illegal for those under 18 to have a knife with a blade length of over 2", and for those over 18 to have one over 2 1/2 inches. You may want to go to www.chicityclerk.com/legislation and check out their screwy laws yourself. These are Chicago rules not Illinois. Chicago may soon outlaw plastic sporks.
swillden
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Thanks. I've looked into state law and Chicago municipal code and found no prohibition against carrying a collapsible baton, so I'm planning on taking one with me.
Thanks. I've looked into state law and Chicago municipal code and found no prohibition against carrying a collapsible baton, so I'm planning on taking one with me.
junglebob
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You should be fine with a collapsable baton. Even in the Chicago area you may find some self defense friendly LEOs. I'm taking an NRA class and a former Chicago cop retired said that he stopped several businessmen carrying bank deposits for traffic violations who mentioned I'm carrying a handgun. His reply "I didn't hear what you just said" he let them go on their way. He also said in 29 years as a Chicago cop he never arrested anyone who had a FOID card for a gun crime.
You should be fine with a collapsable baton. Even in the Chicago area you may find some self defense friendly LEOs. I'm taking an NRA class and a former Chicago cop retired said that he stopped several businessmen carrying bank deposits for traffic violations who mentioned I'm carrying a handgun. His reply "I didn't hear what you just said" he let them go on their way. He also said in 29 years as a Chicago cop he never arrested anyone who had a FOID card for a gun crime.
campfire
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CraigC178 wrote:
Wow, the Illinois laws are moredifficult (in every way, including understanding them)than I knew. I'm a non-resident with family in Illinois. They live inthe St. Louis area near but outside of any city limits (I think technically that is anunincorporated area). Can I shoot on their farm with a shotgun? handgun?during hunting season? outside of hunting season? Does it matter whether I have a concealed carry permit frommy home stateor not (see FOID exception for non-residents with permits by home state)? Any help would be appreciated!
CraigC178 wrote:
Wow, the Illinois laws are moredifficult (in every way, including understanding them)than I knew. I'm a non-resident with family in Illinois. They live inthe St. Louis area near but outside of any city limits (I think technically that is anunincorporated area). Can I shoot on their farm with a shotgun? handgun?during hunting season? outside of hunting season? Does it matter whether I have a concealed carry permit frommy home stateor not (see FOID exception for non-residents with permits by home state)? Any help would be appreciated!
campfire
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Can anyone help with these questions? Thank you.
campfire wrote:
Wow, the Illinois laws are moredifficult (in every way, including understanding them)than I knew. I'm a non-resident with family in Illinois. They live inthe St. Louis area near but outside of any city limits (I think technically that is anunincorporated area). Can I shoot on their farm with a shotgun? handgun?during hunting season? outside of hunting season? Does it matter whether I have a concealed carry permit frommy home stateor not (see FOID exception for non-residents with permits by home state)? Any help would be appreciated!
Can anyone help with these questions? Thank you.
campfire wrote:
Wow, the Illinois laws are moredifficult (in every way, including understanding them)than I knew. I'm a non-resident with family in Illinois. They live inthe St. Louis area near but outside of any city limits (I think technically that is anunincorporated area). Can I shoot on their farm with a shotgun? handgun?during hunting season? outside of hunting season? Does it matter whether I have a concealed carry permit frommy home stateor not (see FOID exception for non-residents with permits by home state)? Any help would be appreciated!
junglebob
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campfire wrote:
The only problem with shooting in a rural area during hunting season I think would be if a conservation officer thought you were hunting.
campfire wrote:
You should be fine in an unincorporated area. Home rule cities and villages can have more restrictive ordinaces than the state. If it is within a couple of miles of a city or village you might inquire from the clerk if that city or village is a home rule community and has firearms ordinances. Very few cities in Southern Illinois have firearms ordinances, but it would be more likely near St. Louis. They should also be listed on the Illinois State Patrol website www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearms.cfm go to municipal ordinances on that web page. Outside of hunting season you should be fine. Having a CCW permit from your state won't make any difference here in Illinois, but if you want to carry, it is good in Missouri, as well as Indiana, and Kentucky maybe Arkansas as well. Most "free states" near Illinois especially south and west and east (not Iowa yet, wait a few months) recognize other states CCW permits.
The only problem with shooting in a rural area during hunting season I think would be if a conservation officer thought you were hunting.
ComradeV
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http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/072000050K24-1.htm
[align=justify]"(720 ILCS 5/24‑1) (from Ch. 38, par. 24‑1)
(Text of Section from P.A. 96‑41)
Sec. 24‑1. Unlawful Use of Weapons.
(a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly:
(1) Sells, manufactures, purchases, possesses or
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[align=justify]carries any bludgeon, black‑jack, slung‑shot, sand‑club, sand‑bag, metal knuckles or other knuckle weapon regardless of its composition, throwing star, or any knife, commonly referred to as a switchblade knife, which has a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in the handle of the knife, or a ballistic knife, which is a device that propels a knifelike blade as a projectile by means of a coil spring, elastic material or compressed gas; or
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[align=justify](2) Carries or possesses with intent to use the same
unlawfully against another, a dagger, dirk, billy, dangerous knife, razor, stiletto, broken bottle or other piece of glass, stun gun or taser or any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument of like character..."(emphasis added)[/align]
[align=justify][/align]
[align=justify]Not being a lawyer or giving legal advice, I determined that carrying a collasible baton(or billy) would only be illegal if you used it or intended to use it to commit a crime. As a self-defense weapon it would seem legal.[/align]
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/072000050K24-1.htm
[align=justify]"(720 ILCS 5/24‑1) (from Ch. 38, par. 24‑1)
(Text of Section from P.A. 96‑41)
Sec. 24‑1. Unlawful Use of Weapons.
(a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly:
(1) Sells, manufactures, purchases, possesses or
[/align]
[align=justify]carries any bludgeon, black‑jack, slung‑shot, sand‑club, sand‑bag, metal knuckles or other knuckle weapon regardless of its composition, throwing star, or any knife, commonly referred to as a switchblade knife, which has a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in the handle of the knife, or a ballistic knife, which is a device that propels a knifelike blade as a projectile by means of a coil spring, elastic material or compressed gas; or
[/align]
[align=justify](2) Carries or possesses with intent to use the same
unlawfully against another, a dagger, dirk, billy, dangerous knife, razor, stiletto, broken bottle or other piece of glass, stun gun or taser or any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument of like character..."(emphasis added)[/align]
[align=justify][/align]
[align=justify]Not being a lawyer or giving legal advice, I determined that carrying a collasible baton(or billy) would only be illegal if you used it or intended to use it to commit a crime. As a self-defense weapon it would seem legal.[/align]
campfire
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junglebob wrote:
junglebob wrote:
I don't know; after another review it looks like to me that (430 ILCS 65/2) (from Ch. 38, par. 83‑2) makes possession illegal for people without a FOID (which means non-residents) unless they meet an exemption, and unless I'm in hunting season hunting properly under the exemptions, looks like the only other way I could get exempted is to have a permit (like a concealed permit) from my home state. Am I reading this correctly?
junglebob
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Campfire, As I mentioned the NRA lobbyist says that a non-resident can transport the same way an Illinois resident can, he can't get a FOID card, but he says he can still transport unloaded and encased anywhere in the vehicle. Note the ISP recommends that non-residents transport "not immediately accessible" they don't say it is required. They also recommend that women use keys, nail files, and combs for self defense and if necessary throw up on themselves to make themselves less appealing to a sexual predator. I think I'll go with the NRA lobbyist, he is very involved in Illinois lawmaking.
Campfire, As I mentioned the NRA lobbyist says that a non-resident can transport the same way an Illinois resident can, he can't get a FOID card, but he says he can still transport unloaded and encased anywhere in the vehicle. Note the ISP recommends that non-residents transport "not immediately accessible" they don't say it is required. They also recommend that women use keys, nail files, and combs for self defense and if necessary throw up on themselves to make themselves less appealing to a sexual predator. I think I'll go with the NRA lobbyist, he is very involved in Illinois lawmaking.
GlockMeisterG21
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Great info guys. I'll be traveling to Peoria next month and now have an idea of what I can and can not do.