pullnshoot25
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Also, there is no bad blood at all. Californians love Arizonans
Also, there is no bad blood at all. Californians love Arizonans
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CA vs AZ - Rattle the bee's nest and stuff it down my pants?
- Thread starter ixtow
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pullnshoot25
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Sonora Rebel wrote:
Sonora Rebel wrote:
Black people were getting murdered by corrupt San Francisco cops. I can see why anyone's panties would get in a wad.
ixtow
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pullnshoot25 wrote:
If California is a lost cause, Florida isn't even part of the USA.
pullnshoot25 wrote:
California has a lot more going for it than Florida. Even with a CCW, we can't even PRINT here, it's a Felony. And forget UOC, you'll be killed on sight.
If California is a lost cause, Florida isn't even part of the USA.
mFonz77
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I was never aware of any bad blood. I have only been to Kalifornia a few times, to see some friends, and I never actually saw any UOCers, but more power to the ones that choose to do it. Personally, while California is beautiful and has many natural treasures, I simply won't live there due to the insane cost of living and progressive social "norms." I'll live in Arizona, a free citizen, and enjoy my freedoms, and spend my money here.
Carry on!
I was never aware of any bad blood. I have only been to Kalifornia a few times, to see some friends, and I never actually saw any UOCers, but more power to the ones that choose to do it. Personally, while California is beautiful and has many natural treasures, I simply won't live there due to the insane cost of living and progressive social "norms." I'll live in Arizona, a free citizen, and enjoy my freedoms, and spend my money here.
Carry on!
Dahwg
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Sad to see that AZ's OC culture is being somewhat maligned on here. Isn't the goal of OC to make it so commonplace that no one bats an eye? That's what we have in AZ, not because we're complacent, but because we have fought hard to take back our rights! As some have mentioned, all one has to do is check out AZCDL and you'll see just how non-complacent we are here.
Sad to see that AZ's OC culture is being somewhat maligned on here. Isn't the goal of OC to make it so commonplace that no one bats an eye? That's what we have in AZ, not because we're complacent, but because we have fought hard to take back our rights! As some have mentioned, all one has to do is check out AZCDL and you'll see just how non-complacent we are here.
acmariner99
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Dahwg wrote:
I see no bad blood from CA and AZ OCers. Many of my friends are from Cali and we go shooting as often as we can. A few OC. They are happy to be out of the restrictive PRKA. As to the number, does it really matter? I appreciate CA people trying to take back their state, but over here in AZ, we have a tremendous amount of freedom. And like several people have mentioned already, the AZCDL is incredibly active in furthering our 2A freedoms in Phoenix. God willing, Constitutional Carry (CC allowed without a permit) and tougher preemption laws should be passed this session. OC here is no big deal. I thought people might ask a few questions, but no one really notices. When I return to WA state in May, its going to be a different story.
Dahwg wrote:
+1
I see no bad blood from CA and AZ OCers. Many of my friends are from Cali and we go shooting as often as we can. A few OC. They are happy to be out of the restrictive PRKA. As to the number, does it really matter? I appreciate CA people trying to take back their state, but over here in AZ, we have a tremendous amount of freedom. And like several people have mentioned already, the AZCDL is incredibly active in furthering our 2A freedoms in Phoenix. God willing, Constitutional Carry (CC allowed without a permit) and tougher preemption laws should be passed this session. OC here is no big deal. I thought people might ask a few questions, but no one really notices. When I return to WA state in May, its going to be a different story.
Pace
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Eh, no idea what being gay and opencarry is about.
Gay, Bi, Straight, QueerCurious, I don't care who OpenCarries. Heck if a bunch of flaming homosexual marched in S.F. with guns strapped to themselves, it would probably do the movement some good.
Come to think of it, a good amount of the members of this board use the motto MOAON AABE which is a motto used by a predominately gay culture of Sparta. (Lots of historical evidence). I mean, what does exactly "Come and Get it Mean?" Hahha
Anywho, silly thread.
Eh, no idea what being gay and opencarry is about.
Gay, Bi, Straight, QueerCurious, I don't care who OpenCarries. Heck if a bunch of flaming homosexual marched in S.F. with guns strapped to themselves, it would probably do the movement some good.
Come to think of it, a good amount of the members of this board use the motto MOAON AABE which is a motto used by a predominately gay culture of Sparta. (Lots of historical evidence). I mean, what does exactly "Come and Get it Mean?" Hahha
Anywho, silly thread.
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mFonz77 wrote:
Definately no bad blood,
I love Arizona, we are somewhat jealousand often use other states as examples of what OC in Ca. should be. Dad was bornon family land in Coolidge in 1943 but left as a kid, what a shame.I guess it's a sight, an old man getting out of a red Pantera with a .45 revolver in cowboy leather.Yes I am jealous, not having this kind of freedom.SoImade plans to move from Ca. Utah here I come.
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mFonz77 wrote:
Definately no bad blood,
I love Arizona, we are somewhat jealousand often use other states as examples of what OC in Ca. should be. Dad was bornon family land in Coolidge in 1943 but left as a kid, what a shame.I guess it's a sight, an old man getting out of a red Pantera with a .45 revolver in cowboy leather.Yes I am jealous, not having this kind of freedom.SoImade plans to move from Ca. Utah here I come.
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wrightme
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I consider AZ "closer" to NV than CA.
CA needs activism on this topic. AZ is pretty much there. Does it really look so bleak from FLA? :?
Out of curiosity ixtow, where are these supposed "raw numbers" of which you refer, and how are you drawing some type of useful conclusion from about 3,000 miles away?
And, as others have asked:
heliopolissolutions wrote:
I consider AZ "closer" to NV than CA.
CA needs activism on this topic. AZ is pretty much there. Does it really look so bleak from FLA? :?
Out of curiosity ixtow, where are these supposed "raw numbers" of which you refer, and how are you drawing some type of useful conclusion from about 3,000 miles away?
And, as others have asked:
heliopolissolutions wrote:
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When I said California is a lost cause, I meant it. I, in no way would want to discourage anyone from trying to assert their 2A right there, but we all have to take emotion out of this and just look at it logically. California is a far left wing state that thinks taxes and gun control is the answer to all their problems. They will always blame gun ownership for their ridiculous crime problem (even though we all know that's B.S.). I personally admire those that risk a police beating, jail sentence, or other sanction to exercise their right to carry. I call it a lost cause because the majority of Californians believe all that crap they are fed about guns being the problem. I was born and raised in that state, and was never happier than the day I left. Yes, it is a Beautiful State, and yes 2A is a constitutional right, but if you truely desire freedom, vote with your feet. Move to a state that actually respects your rights. As for Florida, it must be all the transplanted Northeasterners. Just a guess
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
When I said California is a lost cause, I meant it. I, in no way would want to discourage anyone from trying to assert their 2A right there, but we all have to take emotion out of this and just look at it logically. California is a far left wing state that thinks taxes and gun control is the answer to all their problems. They will always blame gun ownership for their ridiculous crime problem (even though we all know that's B.S.). I personally admire those that risk a police beating, jail sentence, or other sanction to exercise their right to carry. I call it a lost cause because the majority of Californians believe all that crap they are fed about guns being the problem. I was born and raised in that state, and was never happier than the day I left. Yes, it is a Beautiful State, and yes 2A is a constitutional right, but if you truely desire freedom, vote with your feet. Move to a state that actually respects your rights. As for Florida, it must be all the transplanted Northeasterners. Just a guess
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
Pace
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Blah..blah.. blah.. blah, far leftwing..blah..blah..blah.
The same old BS that gun rights has anything to do with liberal vs. conservative issues. Every President and Government since the turn of the century has made bigger government. Reagan spent billions on the Drug War, Clinton spent billions on interns, Bush grew the ATF, I have no idea what Obama is doing...
They all (except Obama so far, strangely enough) have passed laws restricting guns. All of them.
Blah..blah..blah...
Sheeple.
Blah..blah.. blah.. blah, far leftwing..blah..blah..blah.
The same old BS that gun rights has anything to do with liberal vs. conservative issues. Every President and Government since the turn of the century has made bigger government. Reagan spent billions on the Drug War, Clinton spent billions on interns, Bush grew the ATF, I have no idea what Obama is doing...
They all (except Obama so far, strangely enough) have passed laws restricting guns. All of them.
Blah..blah..blah...
Sheeple.
dreamcro
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EdB wrote:
EdB wrote:
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Hmmm...Instead of discussing an issue like an adult, you decide to have THIS response. It IS true that states that are run by crazy Liberals (California, Illinois, New York, etc.) are more likely to restrict your 2A rights. There are very few exceptions to this rule (Vermont comes to mind). I am not a defender of Republicans in the slightest bit. They have shown time and time again that they do not walk the walk. However, Republicans are less likely to restrict your 2A rights than Democrats are. They usually make up for this by attacking your 4A rights (Patriot Act, etc.).
I, myself am a Libertarian. I believe in personal Liberty and ALL the Constitutional Rights we have. I'm not sure why you are attacking my earlier post, except perhaps facts bother you. Again, I'm not defending Bush or any other Republican, but what is coming from this Administration & Congress will make Bush look like a saint.
Shoot on
Pace wrote:
Hmmm...Instead of discussing an issue like an adult, you decide to have THIS response. It IS true that states that are run by crazy Liberals (California, Illinois, New York, etc.) are more likely to restrict your 2A rights. There are very few exceptions to this rule (Vermont comes to mind). I am not a defender of Republicans in the slightest bit. They have shown time and time again that they do not walk the walk. However, Republicans are less likely to restrict your 2A rights than Democrats are. They usually make up for this by attacking your 4A rights (Patriot Act, etc.).
I, myself am a Libertarian. I believe in personal Liberty and ALL the Constitutional Rights we have. I'm not sure why you are attacking my earlier post, except perhaps facts bother you. Again, I'm not defending Bush or any other Republican, but what is coming from this Administration & Congress will make Bush look like a saint.
Shoot on
Pace wrote: