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    Are there any Starbuck's in WNC? We don't have any in Spruce Pine.

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    I'm guessing the closest one is in Asheville. That ought to be exciting. Hippie stampede.

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    Actually the commonly-held idea that hippies (and by that I mean REAL hippies, the ones that live in the woods, grow their own food, and make their own clothes in places like western NC) don't like firearms is false. Most of those "real" hippies own plenty of guns--they use them for defense, hunting and sporting, and are generally a rather "freedom loving" crowd that don't much cotton to the Government telling them what to do...

    It's the "suburban hippies"--those folks who purchase their tie-dyed t-shirts at the mall, and pay $100 for a pair of jeans that are artfully "pre-stressed" at some boutique and drive fully-restored VW Combi's with a DVD player and PS-3 inside that are anti-gun...

    Personally, I find nothing more aesthetically offensive that a poseur...

    Unfortunately, the Ashville area has become a haven for Yankee carpetbagging leftists who think that things like the 1A, 2A, 4A and 10A are troublesome nuisances that get in the way of enacting their Utopian New World Order, and there are pockets of MD-like sentiment here and there.

    Luckily though, the fine citizens of NC are pretty vocal when it comes to this sort of foolishness, and are keeping this creeping encroachment at bay. Thank goodness we have State Preemption...
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
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    ATTENTION! ATTENTION! AAAATENTION!

    THIS IS A WARNING! I REPEAT, THIS IS A WARNING!

    Carpetbagging Leftist Hippy Anti-Gunners... HALT!

    We don't cotton to your kind around here...

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    Dreamer, it's even worse. Suburban college hippies. All the ideological agenda and mommy and daddy's money to pay for it. But the locals have them surrounded.

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    How can you visually I.D. one of those Asheville hippies? I was there for a few days last year and I don't know if I encountered any. No one resembled the traditional hippie appearance that I'm familiar with. Do they work undercover?

    The only person I saw that looked unusual was the Elvis impersonator eating at TGIF around the corner from Biltmore Estate..

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    Tek,

    We should have signs with that wording printed up, and placed at the northern border on all incoming roads... :shock:


    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
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    I have a thought about the recent events of Starbucks complying with state laws even though a good portion of their customers have probably fainted at this. Could it be a move on Starbucks part to keep their stores safer? If they are making the news about all of this (which is good for business as their's was dropping fast) that they have no problems with people who OC in their stores, then who would be thinking about robbing them? It may be they are one of the few to finally see the benefits of honest citizens who do carry.

    Juuuust a thought!

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    Perhaps, however, they may literally just not want to be a part of the debate and they may also realize that a large part of their customer base are pro-gun/pro-carry and just because they allow it via state laws, they probably know the vast majority of people will still come to their stores despite the brady bunch attempt to boycott them. Boycotting Starbucks is not right and trying to force them via petition is foolish. It is not like this company is denying black folk, or white folk for that matter, from entering their stores. Allowing the carry of firearms into a store if state laws allow is not some greatly immoral business practice, as were Jim Crow style laws and prohibiions of the old South and Sundown laws across the country. The Brady Campaign's strategy is flawed as it is demonizing something that is exactly the opposite and most gun crime or violence committed in any place is by that of criminals who wish to take advantage of those that are unable to defend themselves and it is committed by those that are brazen enough to ignore any law, prohibition or presence of a person carrying a weapon, law enforcement or private citizen (as evidenced by the shooting of four officers at the coffee house in Washington state).

    The truth of the matter is, Starbucks is not stupid and they need not take an official side. If the law allows it, why deny it. They're in the business of making money, and right now, to them, there is no harm to their business in allowing firearms to be carried on their premises.

    The Brady Campaign has shown their truth and what they really stand for. They say, Sensible Gun Laws Save Lives. Instead, what they are attempting to do, is state that people that carry guns for protection commit crimes... Poppycock. They say that our guns will be taken from us and used against us and others... Poppycock, that happens more to police than anyone, we're not trying to arrest criminals, we're trying to avoid them. They say we will shoot each other over parking spots... foolishness, criminals want to shoot others over parking spots, law abiding citizens defend themselves against criminals who try to shoot over a parking spot.

    Sensible guns laws? No. The Brady Campaign wants to push firearms into submission. They want them all gone. They would rather take the highly unlikely chance that their efforts will make them safer and this country safer. They want that control. They'll never be safe. One of the most important dynamics of society that proves fatal to ignore, is the criminal element. It will always exist and it will find ways of overcoming law enforcement and citizens. Yes, this is a cliche now, but we can't carry police officers in our pockets, on our backs, in our cars, and certainly not stored at home.

    When the time comes, that criminals bust down your door while you're home, takes your car at an intersection, mugs you on the street, rapes you, beats you, walks into work shooting, what the hell are you going to do when you have no appropriately reliable means of self-defense? That is my question to Brady Campaign.

    Some say, carrying firearms is a solution to a problem that does not exist, they say if someone wants to rob you or burglarize your home, let them take it. Tell that to the people that did not resist and ended up dead. These anti-gun folk may think the problem of crime is low and does not exist. I think that a large part of that has to do with the fact that there are people brave enough to practice their freedoms and rights and defend themselves, often leaving the criminals injured or dead and not the law-abiding citizen.

    All gun control will do is lead to cops, soldiers, and criminals being the only ones with guns. The other criminals will just resort to blunt objects, sharp objects, explosives, vehicles, and other creative means to kill the common citizen. I don't want to die by the hands of any human being through any means, and if carrying a firearm will help me to live longer, then so be it. And even if criminals didn't have guns, I don't intend on letting them get close enough to use any other means to end me.

    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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    Tekshogun, let me add to your above post something I saw on a sweatshirt at the last Greensboro Gun & Knife Show:

    "Would you rather explain to a judge how you were beaten, raped & robbed, or why you shot the MF'er [edited] between the eyes?"
    Carry on!

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    Dreamer wrote:
    It's the "suburban hippies"--those folks who purchase their tie-dyed t-shirts at the mall, and pay $100 for a pair of jeans that are artfully "pre-stressed" at some boutique and drive fully-restored VW Combi's with a DVD player and PS-3 inside that are anti-gun...

    Personally, I find nothing more aesthetically offensive that a poseur...
    I've always known those to be "Yuppies," the ones who sold out the hippy movement of simpler living and peace to go out and horde as many material possessions as possible to give meaning to their pitiful shallow lives.

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    Just wanted to point out a lovely argument I am having on Facebook with some antis about starbucks.

    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?to...3056#topic_top

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    chiefjason wrote:
    Dreamer, it's even worse. Suburban college hippies. All the ideological agenda and mommy and daddy's money to pay for it. But the locals have them surrounded.
    Man, I'm glad we don't have that crap at my college.

    Hell, we have CC at my college.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    AbNo wrote:
    chiefjason wrote:
    Dreamer, it's even worse. Suburban college hippies. All the ideological agenda and mommy and daddy's money to pay for it. But the locals have them surrounded.
    Man, I'm glad we don't have that crap at my college.

    Hell, we have CC at my college.
    You are lucky to have CC at your school. Here at NCSU weapons are illegal on campus, which sucks.

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    Illegal, or banned by school policy?
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    AbNo wrote:
    Illegal, or banned by school policy?
    Both. Educational facilities are named as being a prohibited place for possession of firearms including CHP holders. Most schools I've been to or driven past have signs stating that weapons (usually a picture of a pistol & knife) are prohibited.

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    http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedL..._14-269.2.html

    (1b) School. – A public or private school, community college, college, or university.
    Wow, THAT sucks. I'd suggest you move. Or lobby. Maybe both.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    We have Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, but they haven't been active since November 2009.

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    So.... activate!
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    I have tried to contact them and can't get a response.

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    Start a new group on the ashes of the old?

    http://concealedcampus.org/volunteer.php

    If yourcampus does not have a Campus Leader and you would like to fill the role, please submit an application. Campus Leaders are our representatives on campus that relay information, handle local media, plan events and set up local groups at their universities. The position of campus leader must be renewed every academic year.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    I'm too busy to do anything this semester (its almost over anyway) but I'll look into that. Hopefully next semester will be more lax because the next few weeks are going to be hectic to say the least.

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    Well, you could always get the ball rolling now. Send out some feelers to the SCCC people, and see what might need to be done for later.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    AbNo wrote:
    So.... activate!
    Wonder Twins.... wait, oh, wrong cause.... um.... ah hell, ACTIVATE!

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