Handgun Training

Ruderpinne · Mar 12, 2010

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Figured no better place to ask I googled but got a mess of stuff also dont want to pay for something thats not worth it.

As title says I want to go to as much handgun training as possible.

Anything from novice to expert (should start with novice though).

Dont get me wrong I am not new to handguns been around them all my life my father was in the military trained me on everything I know about guns.

However in case I would ever need to use my gun I could prove that I have extensive knowledge on it. Besides that I would LOVE to compete even if I dont win just because it looks fun! Gives me something to do and something to spend money on haha

I go to SGE and just asked them about their tactial scenario program awaiting a email back.

So any advice on this? I would rather not spend a thousand on a class. So if we could keep it under a thousand that would be nice I only say this because I saw one that was like 2k and people said it was junk forgot the name of the class. It is here in VA.

Thanks

AbNo · Mar 12, 2010

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Well, if would help if we knew more about where you lived. This is a big state, and we don't want to send you some place that's 4+ hours away.

Ruderpinne · Mar 12, 2010

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haha sorry I live in alexandria NOVA but dont care to travel if its a one day class

user · Mar 13, 2010

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Take a look at the NRA training website:

http://www.nrainstructors.org/searchcourse.aspx

No question you'll find something within a half an hour of Alexandria.

I do recommend their pistol course, but take the complete (eight hour) course, not the "basic pistol" course. I guarantee you'll learn things you didn't learn from Grand-dad or from the Army.

G.Stone · Mar 14, 2010

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we are in NOVA the Sterling park, Herndon area.

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ProShooter · Mar 14, 2010

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user wrote:

Take a look at the NRA training website:

http://www.nrainstructors.org/searchcourse.aspx

No question you'll find something within a half an hour of Alexandria.

I do recommend their pistol course, but take the complete (eight hour) course, not the "basic pistol" course. I guarantee you'll learn things you didn't learn from Grand-dad or from the Army.

Remember though that the only courses listed there are official NRA classes. There are lot of great instructors out there who run programs other than what's listed on that site.

nemo · Mar 15, 2010

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Glocker9 wrote:

So any advice on this?

I recommend John Murphyhttp://www.fpftraining.com/index.html, who is not expensive, and I personally recommend Tommy Thacker http://www.nvtactical.com; bothare here in NOVA.

If you don't mind a little travel, I can also recommend Peter Georgiades[/b]http://www.fireinstitute.org, Steve Silverman (hope that he is still active, but I have not heard from him for a while)[/b]http://www.f-r-i.com, and John Farnam, http://www.defense-training.com, all in Pennsylvannia, though I have been trying to get John down here (hard to find a range). Kyle Lamg,http://www.vikingtactics.com, and Tom Givens[/b] http://www.rangemaster.com, are both worth the longer drive.

There are others on the east coast (one thatis ALMOST worth the drive to Florida), but I do not know enough about rest. There are also, of course, many others who are EXCELLENT, but you have to make a major effort, i.e., travel across country, etc.

Sorry about the fonts: I was cutting and pasting, and the software here went haywire, and I could not undo it.

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ufcfanvt · Mar 16, 2010

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+1 for John Murphy @ http://www.fpftraining.com/index.html

useful_idiot · Mar 16, 2010

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+1 for John Murphy @ http://www.fpftraining.com/index.html

My Avatar pic was taken at one of his classes.

Fenris · Mar 16, 2010

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I must find/make time for this.

Too much time on low stress, untimed, paper targets.

Regular_Joe · Mar 17, 2010

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ufcfanvt wrote:

+1 for John Murphy @ http://www.fpftraining.com/index.html

John Murphy is in the neighborhood, but at this time he doesn't allow Serpa holsters on his range...

Wife and I are preparing to attend Pat Goodale's Practical Firearms Training Defensive Handgun courses at his WV location. http://www.pgpft.com

ufcfanvt · Mar 18, 2010

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This has been discussed several times on OCDO, but I have been and continue to be, opposed to using the Serpa and I think for safety reasons, I support John Murphy's choice in banning the Serpa from his classes.
I will say that it's unfortunate that consumers can't train with the holster they like, as a result of this policy.

AbNo · Mar 19, 2010

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ufcfanvt wrote:

This has been discussed several times on OCDO, but I have been and continue to be, opposed to using the Serpa and I think for safety reasons,

If it's been discussed several times on OCDO, I must've missed it somehow in my three years and 3400 posts. :uhoh:

Care to refresh my memory?

joeamt · Mar 20, 2010

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ufcfanvt wrote:

This has been discussed several times on OCDO, but I have been and continue to be, opposed to using the Serpa and I think for safety reasons, I support John Murphy's choice in banning the Serpa from his classes.
I will say that it's unfortunate that consumers can't train with the holster they like, as a result of this policy.

I use a CR Speed holster because the Serpa wears my gun's finish anyway. It is great for not only competition, but also open carry. I will never go back to Serpa now.

ODA 226 · Mar 20, 2010

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ufcfanvt wrote:

This has been discussed several times on OCDO, but I have been and continue to be, opposed to using the Serpa and I think for safety reasons, I support John Murphy's choice in banning the Serpa from his classes.
I will say that it's unfortunate that consumers can't train with the holster they like, as a result of this policy.

Please explain in detail what is unsafe about a SERPA.

Grapeshot · Mar 20, 2010

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ODA 226 wrote:

ufcfanvt wrote:

This has been discussed several times on OCDO, but I have been and continue to be, opposed to using the Serpa and I think for safety reasons, I support John Murphy's choice in banning the Serpa from his classes.
I will say that it's unfortunate that consumers can't train with the holster they like, as a result of this policy.

Click to expand...

Please explain in detail what is unsafe about a SERPA.

The Serpa urban legend - old wives tale.

Occasionally someone will pop up who knows somebody that knows somebody who has seen a small pebble jamb the release on this hoster - this story has been around for years.

Blackhawk responded to this possibility a long, long time ago by closing the previously open edge on the Serpa.

Even so, an instructor wanting to make a point tried to show me where the jamb would occur - only to find out that it couldn't. His response was, "I see they fixed it, but I still don't like it." :?

Love all three of my Serpas.

Yata hey

Regular_Joe · Mar 20, 2010

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Grapeshot wrote:

ODA 226 wrote:

ufcfanvt wrote:

This has been discussed several times on OCDO, but I have been and continue to be, opposed to using the Serpa and I think for safety reasons, I support John Murphy's choice in banning the Serpa from his classes.
I will say that it's unfortunate that consumers can't train with the holster they like, as a result of this policy.

Click to expand...

Please explain in detail what is unsafe about a SERPA.

Click to expand...

The Serpa urban legend - old wives tale.

Occasionally someone will pop up who knows somebody that knows somebody who has seen a small pebble jamb the release on this hoster - this story has been around for years.

Blackhawk responded to this possibility a long, long time ago by closing the previously open edge on the Serpa.

Even so, an instructor wanting to make a point tried to show me where the jamb would occur - only to find out that it couldn't. His response was, "I see they fixed it, but I still don't like it." :?

Love all three of my Serpas.

Yata hey

Grapeshot, do you know of any online content that would disprove this legend?

Grapeshot · Mar 20, 2010

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Regular_Joe wrote:

Grapeshot, do you know of any online content that would disprove this legend?

How do you disprove a legend?

Serpas are in use by military in the sand box, thousands and thousand of civilians own them and are not reporting any problems.

Here is some pro and con discussion - all of the negatives seem to fall into the "what if" category.
http://policelink.monster.com/topics/38101-serpa-holsters-can-be-deadly/posts

The sales pitch by Blackhawk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H28yVa1wojc

Yata hey

mdinnie · Mar 22, 2010

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I think another concern was that while pressing in with the index finger to release the catch, a person may accidentally continue pressing the index finger into the trigger?
I don't have an opinion on the holster or this scenario, it was just something I read on the inter-webs.

Grapeshot · Mar 22, 2010

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mdinnie wrote:

I think another concern was that while pressing in with the index finger to release the catch, a person may accidentally continue pressing the index finger into the trigger?
I don't have an opinion on the holster or this scenario, it was just something I read on the inter-webs.

No more so than an early finger on the trigger with any holster - you will perform the way you train.

Proper indexing of the trigger finger does NOT utilize the finger tip, but rather a straight, flat finger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H28yVa1wojc

Yata hey

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