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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaW07OXA6gI

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    Text of the news release:

    March 15, 2010

    America's most promising experiment in liberty, the Free State Project, officially signed its ten thousandth participant today. The organization is dedicated to migrating 20,000 pro-liberty activists who agree to downsize government to New Hampshire. The announcement comes in advance of the Free State Project's annual winter convention, the New Hampshire Liberty Forum.

    Jason Sorens, founder of the Project, said, "This is a great milestone for us. It feels good to be half-way there. There's still much to do, but the project is continuing to grow and I am confident we'll reach our goal of 20,000 participants."

    Participants come from many backgrounds but all agree to move to New Hampshire, where they will “exert the fullest practical effort toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty, and property." The agreement avoids political labels and allows individual participants to set their own course to reach their goal.

    "The Free State Project has no political platform or membership dues", Sorens stated. "We have participants who identify as conservative, classical liberal, libertarian, anarchist, voluntaryist, you name it. The things we care about are: Do you want more liberty and less government? Are you willing to work toward it? Are you going to be a good, neighborly person in your community? If so, the Free State Project may be just what you're looking for."

    While no one is obligated to move until 20,000 people have joined, 800 participants are already in New Hampshire. Four have been elected to the state house and dozens more to local offices. Members have founded or supported organizations around issues such as lowering taxes, gun rights, drug law reform, spending caps, homeschooling, marriage freedom, privacy protection, and state sovereignty. They have also started media outlets such as nationally syndicated radio show Free Talk Live, YouTube sensations like The Ridley Report, and print publications like the New Hampshire Free Press.

    FSP president Varrin Swearingen noted that "the FSP is more than just being politically active, it's also about community. Several cities have regular social meetings with dozens in attendance. Members have met their spouse through the Project. There is a full social calendar of parties, hikes, game nights, you name it. Come for the liberty, stay for the community."

    Early mover Margot Keyes of Epsom commented, "Many people move for jobs or family, but rarely get a chance to move for their ideals. Why not move to where you can find jobs, a lovely environment in which to live a freer life, as well as a community where your ideas are not only welcomed but shared?! Join the FSP community--live what you believe!"

    When Swearingen was asked what the project is doing to reach the next 10,000 participants, he replied, "We are increasing our advertising, starting direct telephone outreach, and increasing our presence at pro-liberty events across the country. Now that members have moved to New Hampshire we have hundreds of natural ambassadors that can speak to how great it is here. One thing that sometimes holds people back is their practical need for a job. We now have extensive online resources available to help with that at http://freestateproject.org/jobs. Thankfully New Hampshire has the best economy in the northeast, which we hope to improve further."

    Judge Andrew Napolitano recently said that "The Project is fascinating..." We certainly agree, and look forward to the Judge extending his remarks on this milestone at the Liberty Forum, where he will be the keynote speaker.

    Updated info, action photo: http://forum.freestateproject.org/in...8895#msg238895


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    Locals sympathetic, their police less so:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXiUK8cohJI


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    You know, I looked in to New Hampshire. You guys tout how NH is for liberty and such, yet ban the ownership of wolf dogs and owning exotic animals unless they're exhibited. While there are seriously ignorant and stupid people who rather don't understand wild animals or people who own them, there are responsible people out there.

    Sound familiar? It should, basically just a straight comparison of firearm ownership.

    How free is that, eh? My pack means the world to me.
    Gays are prominent members of firearm rights, we do more via the courts, don't like it? Leave.
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    A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right to keep and bear wolf dogs and other exotic animals shall not be infringed.

    Nope. Can't find it.

    Ever OC a wolf dog? Talk about needing a safety!

    There is no comparison.

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    If you want to be precise, the second amendment is not unlimited as stated in Heller. There can be reasonable restrictions imposed, even though the 2nd applies to open carry.

    This doesn't mean open carry is "my second amendment right, gfy" since restrictions could be imposed by the state. i.e. licensing, banning open carry anywhere except your place of abode, etc.

    Simply put though, originally in my discussion, NH touts "being a free state" yet restricts the people to owning exotic animals who are responsible and lawful. No, it's not a free state when you're restricting people's pets/family members/pack.
    Gays are prominent members of firearm rights, we do more via the courts, don't like it? Leave.
    Religious bigots against same sex marriage are not different than white supremacists.
    I expel anti-gay people off my teams. Tolerance is key to team cohesion and team building.

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    I prefer the other option. Stay where you are happy living and make your own state a free state.
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    I agree with Old Grump. After all why would want to all move to one state. It seems to me like we would all be placing ourselves into our own japanese-american style internment camp like in ww2. They would be keeping us in one place and we would help them do that.

    I like Kentucky. I think I'll just hang here for awhile.
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    We all speak of liberty and freedom like we are the only ones that know the truth and the right path. But if we expect everyone to accept and follow our path and to accept our truth and want to force it upon them then that is no longer liberty or freedom. It is slavery. I believe in liberty for all. Regardless of their political views, religion, race, sex, etc.

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    RidleyReport wrote:
    Locals sympathetic, their police less so:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXiUK8cohJI
    Looks like some LEOs need to relocate ASAP.
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    ten thousand people going there? that's a pretty small state to start, they'll be full up!

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    The problem with NH, and VT for that matter, regardless of their laws, politics, taxes, etc are the big gov't, hugely restrictive states that surround them, not to mention bordering that socialist northern haven, Canada. Seriously, that is a deal breaker.

    Living near the MO/IL border, I have spent many years already having to deal with traveling through restrictive/expensive/big gov't IL to get to a lot of places I need/want to go which has historically been hugely inconvenient. Getting across IL (numerous fire arms restrictions, 5-10 mph lower speed limit than adjacent states, much higher gas prices due to state taxes, etc) to IN is only a few hours. Getting from NH or VT to PA, the closest free state, appears to be about twice the distance as scooting across the PRI.

    As they say with all real estate, "location, location, location". NH's location in the midst of the most densely packed big-gov't, leftist region in the nation makes it's location untenable for me. In that regard, KYKevin has a point as to it being a self-imposed internment camp of sorts.
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    Hhmm double-tap...
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    Don't let Congressman Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) hear about this...he'll worry about New Hampshire capsizing.

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    Thanks, diet rootbeer out my nose, in my beard, on my shirt and on the back of my hand trying to stop it from getting on my desk and keyboard. If that dope would have been a Republican they would have Quayled him but only guys like us seem to remember.
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    Brian D. wrote:
    Don't let Congressman Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) hear about this...he'll worry about New Hampshire capsizing.
    Cut the man some slack. He knows Guam is surrounded by water and NH is landlocked.

    He's say that NH would be swallowed up by a giant sinkhole. :shock:

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    Thank you Dave of the RidleyReport.com
    I know this is a 2ndA site but to expand on some posts as to …. Why move to one state? Why move to New Hampshire? There may be legitimate reasons not to move to NH. I realize that Alaska may have more liberties in owning wild animals and Kentucky is a good place to “hide” but if anyone is interested in getting together and actually doing some thing for personal liberties then come to NH as a liberty activist and you will find people standing by and helping you.
    There are 800 listed Early Movers here in NH already and they are doing things, not talking, not hiding, not making excuses but standing against the system and getting elected to state and local offices while running for National seats. Like Switzerland I believe NH will stand out like a beacon for those that choose to open their eyes.
    Google or youtube the keywords “Liberty (your state)” and you will find no activists and nothing happening in your state towards fighting the advancement of liberty. Keywords “Liberty New Hampshire” and you get the 50% of google hits of liberty activists, events, organizations activity doing something . Youtube will give you a greater % of hits of activists, civil disobedience and confronting the system.

    Check out NH weapon laws and that of your state and then look around to see who is there to defending or leading the way to change them…NH would be the place to be especially if you are for supporting that the “maximum role of civil government is the protection of life, liberty, and property”.

    Come visit “some” of us during PorFest or NH Liberty Forum to answer some of your questions first hand. That is because there are too many of us doing things and only about 600 attendees can make these popular FSP events. Heck, if you just search some of the topics I listed here will keeping you busy with 2ndA and liberty activists in NH.

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