OCforAll wrote:
TFred wrote:
MamaLiberty wrote:
mark edward marchiafava wrote:
eye95 wrote:
The handwriting is on the wall. These companies are realizing the The 2A is making a comeback, and they want to be on the right side of the issue.
"These companies" have no idea what the 2nd amendment is all about, much like 99.999% of their customers.
Glad to hear Golden Corral has (finally) decided to obey the law nonetheless.
What "law" would that be? I think you've got that backwards, Mark. These businesses are private property. Just as you can decide who will enter your front door, so can they. If they decid that they don't want armed customers, there is no "law" to force the business to admit them.
It is always a very bad idea to initiate force. Instead, we must demonstrate that those who enter armed are no threat to either the business or their paying customers - that we ARE paying customers. When they see that, only then do we become valued customers.
Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that they have finally "decided to
follow the law..."
TFred
Actually no, the law has nothing to do with it. The accurate phrase would be that they now "allow" the public to OC on their property, which technically I'm not even sure the state could outlaw even if they wanted to. Private property is private property, right? The government can't take my right to allow you to OC while on my property, can they?
Of course they can. If you are a prohibited person, you may not possess a firearm anywhere at any time, openly or concealed. There are some states that have arrested people for openly carrying on their own property. The one big case that made a lot of noise was in Racine, Wisconsin. I think that case was eventually tossed out, but it happens.
Virginia has a concealed handgun statute which is structured to provide that a permit acts as a specific exemption from a law generally prohibiting the carry of concealed weapons. The way it is written, you as a private property owner are not allowed to grant a non-permit holder permission to carry concealed, even on your own property. I'm sure there are similar examples like this from all over the country.
I'm sure you've been following the Starbucks story... they phrased it like this: "We
comply with local laws and statutes in all the communities we serve. In this case, 43 of the 50 U.S. states have open carry weapon laws. Where these laws don’t exist, we comply with laws that prohibit the open carrying of weapons."
Follow, comply, use as guidelines... what it boils down to in my view is the company is not imposing any
additional restrictions on the carry of firearms beyond that which are already imposed by state law. You can't express that idea without somehow incorporating a reference to "state law".
TFred