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Is It OC When They Don't Know it's a Gun?
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ed
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Neo wrote:
Neo wrote:
Hidden in PLAIN SITE is still hidden. People have been charged with concealing a NAA gun because it is "hidden" from common observation right in the belt buckle. You and I might know it is a gun.. but the "reasonable man" sees it as a big ass "weird looking" belt buckle.
Dreamer
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The "North Carolina Attorney General Firearms Law Handbook" specifically addresses the issue of small guns carried in a belt buckle. Under the NC AG's interpretation of the law, such a gun would be considered "concealed" even if it was out in "plain sight". Here, "concealed" means it is 1) in plain sight and 2) is easily discernible as a real firearm...
I can't speak for other states though, but I believe VA, WV, and PA have similar interpretations...
The "North Carolina Attorney General Firearms Law Handbook" specifically addresses the issue of small guns carried in a belt buckle. Under the NC AG's interpretation of the law, such a gun would be considered "concealed" even if it was out in "plain sight". Here, "concealed" means it is 1) in plain sight and 2) is easily discernible as a real firearm...
I can't speak for other states though, but I believe VA, WV, and PA have similar interpretations...
AbNo
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Neo
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I can see where it would fall under some of the same laws as shotgun walking canes and such. Still, I see it as distinctly different from something like the H&K MP5K "operational briefcase"...but that's just the engineer in me.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8523879154074736417#
I can see where it would fall under some of the same laws as shotgun walking canes and such. Still, I see it as distinctly different from something like the H&K MP5K "operational briefcase"...but that's just the engineer in me.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8523879154074736417#
JJ
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Neo wrote:
Too Cool!!!!
Neo wrote:
Too Cool!!!!
GLOCK21GB
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pretty.
pretty.
FightingGlock19
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Neo wrote:
Neo wrote:
aside from being two years old, the man states, "this isn't something we are going to produce."
Riana
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So, basically, as long as you can tell it's a gun and not something else, it's OK to OC?
How about an NAA Mini-Revolver with a holster grip: http://www.naaminis.com/magnum.html?? Clipped on the outside of the pocket, it's OC?
Edit: Never mind... found another thread that discusses these little fellas. I have a friend coming up from Florida for the 2A March, and he wanted to know if his NAA with a holster grip would be kosher to OC in a restaurant. I'm thinking the answer is no...
So, basically, as long as you can tell it's a gun and not something else, it's OK to OC?
How about an NAA Mini-Revolver with a holster grip: http://www.naaminis.com/magnum.html?? Clipped on the outside of the pocket, it's OC?
Edit: Never mind... found another thread that discusses these little fellas. I have a friend coming up from Florida for the 2A March, and he wanted to know if his NAA with a holster grip would be kosher to OC in a restaurant. I'm thinking the answer is no...
marrero jeff
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i have to get one! it'll go great with my magpul themed ar.
i have to get one! it'll go great with my magpul themed ar.
1245A Defender
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hows this? its carried where a belt buckle would normally be,,
but it doesnt look like anything, but a gun!!
hows this? its carried where a belt buckle would normally be,,
but it doesnt look like anything, but a gun!!
Neo
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Ok, Ok, I just remembered the ultimate "concealed-in-plain-sight" firearm: My friends, I give you the ZF1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pxjnl1yuXk
Ok, Ok, I just remembered the ultimate "concealed-in-plain-sight" firearm: My friends, I give you the ZF1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pxjnl1yuXk
Neo
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1245A Defender wrote:
1245A Defender wrote:
Is that thing for real? Is it an operational firearm? It's definitely unmistakable.
Mr.FiredUp
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Neo wrote:
Now that thing is the ticket! I haven't seen that movie in forever.
When are they gonna make that available for civilian use?
Neo wrote:
Now that thing is the ticket! I haven't seen that movie in forever.
When are they gonna make that available for civilian use?
1245A Defender
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Neo wrote:
its a tanfoglio GT-380, i had it since 1977, works just fine!
you could just glance past it, as decoration, but upon actualy looking its obviously a gun!
Neo wrote:
ive recently pollished it up so there are shiny parts, and trimmed up the aluminum "holder"
its a tanfoglio GT-380, i had it since 1977, works just fine!
you could just glance past it, as decoration, but upon actualy looking its obviously a gun!