LEO interaction in Eastpointe

caseman · Mar 16, 2010

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What kind of recorder did you use and where was it located on your person? I presume the LEOs didn't know you had it. It was a very high quality recording.

dsmith4825 · Mar 16, 2010

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Scot623, not sure where you live in Eastpointe, but I know I walk around all the time and I have a school one block away in each direction of me. I have never had an issue so far. Thank God! And I carry a full size 1911 on my hip. My neighbors respect my right to carry and know me and a couple have actually thanked me for being visible. I have walked down 9 mile to the 7/eleven a couple of times in recent days even. So, I guess I had better keep my eyes open for possible issues.

CoonDog · Mar 16, 2010

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Great job keeping your head screwed on straight.

Venator · Mar 16, 2010

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lil_freak_66 wrote:

you did great imo.

LEO's were rather pushy at first with the questions,but were pretty much nice and seemed decent to me.

That is a tactic they use. They want to see what kind of person they are dealing with. They also want you to react in some way so have a reason to arrest or cite you. Once you react in a sane manner they tend to back down. Just always keep your cool.

Venator · Mar 16, 2010

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You talked too much, but I know the first one is scary. It was a good Fishing expedition though. My advice is that the points they made have been proved wrong and if you want to talk, challenge their comments. But that's me.

You could have been MORE DECENT?? WTF?

Taurus850CIA · Mar 16, 2010

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Venator wrote:

You talked too much, but I know the first one is scary. It was a good Fishing expedition though. My advice is that the points they made have been proved wrong and if you want to talk, challenge their comments. But that's me.

You could have been MORE DECENT?? WTF?

AKA: lay down, and be a good little sheep, and do what the authoritarian says.

Evil Creamsicle · Mar 16, 2010

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You could always answer questions with off-topic, inappropriate, awkward comments too.

"Are you a felon?"

"I have a huge b***r right now."

...no just kidding, but really its absurd how ignorant some officers are.

scot623 · Mar 16, 2010

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Venator, I always talk too much.

FatboyCykes · Mar 16, 2010

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Evil Creamsicle wrote:

You could always answer questions with off-topic, inappropriate, awkward comments too.

"Are you a felon?"

"I have a huge b***r right now."

...no just kidding, but really its absurd how ignorant some officers are.

roflmbo

I can hear the audio recording in my head right now. My effing' ribs hurt, wth, this site isn't supposed to be funny, it's serious business!

ETA: lololololololloolloloooloolloool!!!!

Venator · Mar 16, 2010

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scot623 wrote:

Venator, I always talk too much.

I'm as guilty, though I try to learn a little moreeach time.

Evil Creamsicle · Mar 16, 2010

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Baleeted

jeremy05 · Mar 16, 2010

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I think it went well. :celebrate

Guest · Mar 16, 2010

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"Next time you could be a little more decent."

Just how indecent were you?:what:

Is OC now considered "indecent exposure"?:what:

jeremiahJohnson · Mar 16, 2010

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You were not breaking the law!, it required nothing but a roll by, you could have said nothing, in my opinion you should have said nothing. Good job keeping calm.

scot623 · Mar 16, 2010

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CrossPistols wrote:

You were not breaking the law!, it required nothing but a roll by, you could have said nothing, in my opinion you should have said nothing. Good job keeping calm.

I truly believe feeling the pulse of the LEO's before shutting down can go a long way to fostering a better relationship between open carriers and law enforcement. There is nothing wrong with a little voluntary chat. If at any time the OCer feels it is going beyond that, by all means...shut up.(I know i wasn't breaking the law, that's why I was confident enough to engage in a chat with the LEO's)

PDinDetroit · Mar 16, 2010

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scot623 wrote:

CrossPistols wrote:

You were not breaking the law!, it required nothing but a roll by, you could have said nothing, in my opinion you should have said nothing. Good job keeping calm.

Click to expand...

I truly believe feeling the pulse of the LEO's before shutting down can go a long way to fostering a better relationship between open carriers and law enforcement. There is nothing wrong with a little voluntary chat. If at any time the OCer feels it is going beyond that, by all means...shut up.(I know i wasn't breaking the law, that's why I was confident enough to engage in a chat with the LEO's)

If anyone thinks they can talk to the police since they know they have not broken the law, I think they need to review the following video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865&hl=en#

autosurgeon · Mar 16, 2010

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PDinDetroit wrote:

scot623 wrote:

CrossPistols wrote:

You were not breaking the law!, it required nothing but a roll by, you could have said nothing, in my opinion you should have said nothing. Good job keeping calm.

Click to expand...

I truly believe feeling the pulse of the LEO's before shutting down can go a long way to fostering a better relationship between open carriers and law enforcement. There is nothing wrong with a little voluntary chat. If at any time the OCer feels it is going beyond that, by all means...shut up.(I know i wasn't breaking the law, that's why I was confident enough to engage in a chat with the LEO's)

Click to expand...

If anyone thinks they can talk to the police since they know they have not broken the law, I think they need to review the following video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865&hl=en#

Ya beat me to it! :celebrate

scot623 · Mar 16, 2010

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Would you say that still applies when the officer says on tape that the OCer was stopped because of a legally carried firearm therefore making the detainment illegal? And anything found during the illegal detainment would be thrown out as fruit of the poisenous tree?

7th District · Mar 17, 2010

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scot623 wrote:

Here is the audio link. I couldn't host it on youtube. If someone wants to convert the file for hosting there, go ahead then just post the new link.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ujdnfzmwdzo/first%20leo%20encounter_0001.wma

It sounded like a rather pleasant exchange all around. Scot were you the fellow on the Fox 2 report carrying the Sigma? If so Ithought that youvery well spoken in that report.

jeremiahJohnson · Mar 17, 2010

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scot623 wrote:

Would you say that still applies when the officer says on tape that the OCer was stopped because of a legally carried firearm therefore making the detainment illegal? And anything found during the illegal detainment would be thrown out as fruit of the poisenous tree?

To be thrown out implies that you had to go to court. Exercising your 4th & 5th Amend. rights, leaves the ball solely in the Cops court. Forcing him to make a command decision, and that decision may jeopardize his career, so the burden of proof he needs to make the arrest or cite the violation, better be there or else.

I am not criticizing just saying....Silence is Bliss

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