lil_freak_66
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personally,id like to see sub forums over an MOC forum for now.
andadditional forum mods.
personally,id like to see sub forums over an MOC forum for now.
andadditional forum mods.
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Sub forums here or a new forum, something needs to give
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This forum is already moderated.
Several threads have been deleted in the last 2 days for being off topic.
How much moderation do you want?
Or are you seeking censorship under the guise of "moderation"?
How many sub threads should there be besides the one that discusses open carry?
What would be the subject of the sub-threads?
Open carry 2?
Open carry 3?
Open carry 4?
This forum is already moderated.
Several threads have been deleted in the last 2 days for being off topic.
How much moderation do you want?
Or are you seeking censorship under the guise of "moderation"?
How many sub threads should there be besides the one that discusses open carry?
What would be the subject of the sub-threads?
Open carry 2?
Open carry 3?
Open carry 4?
lil_freak_66
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events would be a great sub forum.
then have the regular one.
events would be a great sub forum.
then have the regular one.
Bronson
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My lean would toward MOC having their own forum.
There is always so much confusion between MOC and OCDO being linked together or somehow affiliated with each other. One of the reasons for that is that we have official announcements from MOC leadership being posted here on OCDO...it's no wonder people think they are linked.
MOC needs it's own place and ALL MOC business should remain onits ownwebsite.
Bronson
My lean would toward MOC having their own forum.
There is always so much confusion between MOC and OCDO being linked together or somehow affiliated with each other. One of the reasons for that is that we have official announcements from MOC leadership being posted here on OCDO...it's no wonder people think they are linked.
MOC needs it's own place and ALL MOC business should remain onits ownwebsite.
Bronson
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Bronson wrote:
As posted in several threads here and in the email to the membership form GeneralDet, a separate MOC website is currently being developed by viperar15.
This will be a great leap forward for MOC.
Bronson wrote:
No need to lean.
As posted in several threads here and in the email to the membership form GeneralDet, a separate MOC website is currently being developed by viperar15.
This will be a great leap forward for MOC.
American Boy With a Gun
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Has anybody thought of getting an OCDO MI or MOC xat?...there free semi-private chatrooms, real time chat...not post, wait, refresh, read, post, repeat...idk just my .02c...i know alot of people who use them for different groups...mostly video games but the point is still the same...also webbs, its a free website type thing, all members have to be invited by email and you can put xat chat boxes on them...i know a guy in Salt Lake city that set one up in like 6 hours...you can see member pics and chat, also you can have multiple chat boxes from xat on there "events" "general" etc...idk...like i said...just my .02c
Has anybody thought of getting an OCDO MI or MOC xat?...there free semi-private chatrooms, real time chat...not post, wait, refresh, read, post, repeat...idk just my .02c...i know alot of people who use them for different groups...mostly video games but the point is still the same...also webbs, its a free website type thing, all members have to be invited by email and you can put xat chat boxes on them...i know a guy in Salt Lake city that set one up in like 6 hours...you can see member pics and chat, also you can have multiple chat boxes from xat on there "events" "general" etc...idk...like i said...just my .02c
lil_freak_66
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American Boy With a Gun wrote:
American Boy With a Gun wrote:
we use teamspeak...
CoonDog
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FWIW, there's no doubt in my mind that we need our own forum. When we meet people on the street, can we really afford to send them here for info on carry laws if they're going to run into a round of childish bantering. IMO, they see that behavior and MOC looses all credibility for that person. I don't want them going away thinking, "those MOC guys are nuts" or, "those guys are a-holes". Our own forum on MOC.org can be useful for discussing legal and event info, more formal, if you will, while we can come here to OCDO to shoot the bull and bicker at each other if need-be.
FWIW, there's no doubt in my mind that we need our own forum. When we meet people on the street, can we really afford to send them here for info on carry laws if they're going to run into a round of childish bantering. IMO, they see that behavior and MOC looses all credibility for that person. I don't want them going away thinking, "those MOC guys are nuts" or, "those guys are a-holes". Our own forum on MOC.org can be useful for discussing legal and event info, more formal, if you will, while we can come here to OCDO to shoot the bull and bicker at each other if need-be.
FatboyCykes
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Heh you think the childish bickering will stay here and not migrate? I'd like some of what you're having. I wish you were right, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
Heh you think the childish bickering will stay here and not migrate? I'd like some of what you're having. I wish you were right, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
Big Gay Al
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FatboyCykes wrote:
FatboyCykes wrote:
I wouldn't count on it.
CoonDog
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Well, I hear you on the cautious optimism and I agree we'll never be rid of it completely (I've been guilty of the same, at least over on MGO). At least having the forum on MOC, there's the opportunity for the mods can say, "Edit your post and take it to PM or it will be deleted." I'll keep my finger's crossed.
Well, I hear you on the cautious optimism and I agree we'll never be rid of it completely (I've been guilty of the same, at least over on MGO). At least having the forum on MOC, there's the opportunity for the mods can say, "Edit your post and take it to PM or it will be deleted." I'll keep my finger's crossed.
Big Gay Al
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CoonDog wrote:
That person would need to be someone with some experience in moderating a forum, and would need to be level headed, (yeah, right. ) as well as someone who's not involved in any inter-personal conflicts with anyone else on this forum. Or at least someone who can rise above such conflicts and handle conflicts with fairness and an even hand.
CoonDog wrote:
I agree. If MOC has a forum with more control, there would be less objectionable material floating about. By the same token, if owners of this forum could appoint a couple of trustworthy people here to moderate this forum, we could reach the same happy medium. But I do think it would need more than just one person.
That person would need to be someone with some experience in moderating a forum, and would need to be level headed, (yeah, right.
) as well as someone who's not involved in any inter-personal conflicts with anyone else on this forum. Or at least someone who can rise above such conflicts and handle conflicts with fairness and an even hand.autosurgeon
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If properly moderated with a good Code of Conduct it can be run very smoothly. I have moderated several forums and had very few problems. A few suspensions and a couple of outright banns on trolls but other than that no big deal.
If properly moderated with a good Code of Conduct it can be run very smoothly. I have moderated several forums and had very few problems. A few suspensions and a couple of outright banns on trolls but other than that no big deal.
Big Gay Al
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autosurgeon wrote:
Myself, I only run into trouble when on a forum that's over loaded with rules. The fewer rules the better, in my humble opinion.
autosurgeon wrote:
Agreed. Most of the problems I've ever run into on forums I've moderated can be handled with little fuss. Sometimes bad things happen, but it sort of depends on the forum's dynamic. I've been on some that were very smooth, and others that were wild. It just depends on certain factors.
Myself, I only run into trouble when on a forum that's over loaded with rules. The fewer rules the better, in my humble opinion.
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CoonDog wrote:
Big Gay Al wrote:
CoonDog wrote:
+1
Big Gay Al wrote:
+1autosurgeon wrote:Agreed. Most of the problems I've ever run into on forums I've moderated can be handled with little fuss. Sometimes bad things happen, but it sort of depends on the forum's dynamic. I've been on some that were very smooth, and others that were wild. It just depends on certain factors.
Myself, I only run into trouble when on a forum that's over loaded with rules. The fewer rules the better, in my humble opinion.
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Taurus850CIA wrote:
My reference was to the removal of all moderators on this site that was completed by the owners.
My simplified restated question is this...
Are you suggesting, by your previous post, that the owners of this site should have put the dismissal of all moderators before the "membership" of OCDO prior to it's execution?
This site had more moderation and it did not work out as the owners wnated it to.
The current level of moderation is evidently working or the owners would most certainly have changed it.
Taurus850CIA wrote:
If you recall, the event you're alluding to occurred on a Saturday.
My reference was to the removal of all moderators on this site that was completed by the owners.
My simplified restated question is this...
Are you suggesting, by your previous post, that the owners of this site should have put the dismissal of all moderators before the "membership" of OCDO prior to it's execution?
This site had more moderation and it did not work out as the owners wnated it to.
The current level of moderation is evidently working or the owners would most certainly have changed it.
Big Gay Al
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Taurus850CIA wrote:
I asked for volunteers, and got several. The people I picked, I did so as they seemed level headed at the time. Boy, was I wrong. Even though they didn't have as much control as I did, I came back from vacation to find the whole forum in chaos. I ended up shutting the whole thing down.
Needless to say, I was bummed out for a long time. That sort of experience can really drag you down, when you find out your trust was severely misplaced.
Taurus850CIA wrote:
I once ran a small forum, basically as a one man operation. For the most part everything went smoothly until I went to go on a short vacation and figured I needed help with moderation while I was away.
I asked for volunteers, and got several. The people I picked, I did so as they seemed level headed at the time. Boy, was I wrong. Even though they didn't have as much control as I did, I came back from vacation to find the whole forum in chaos. I ended up shutting the whole thing down.
Needless to say, I was bummed out for a long time. That sort of experience can really drag you down, when you find out your trust was severely misplaced.
FatboyCykes
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Several much smaller forums that I've modded or admin'd the number one rule that was clearly posted and vigilantly enforced was respect. Not up for discussion, not up for debate, disagree and debate all you want, cross that line and your warned, suspended, banned, in that order.
Several much smaller forums that I've modded or admin'd the number one rule that was clearly posted and vigilantly enforced was respect. Not up for discussion, not up for debate, disagree and debate all you want, cross that line and your warned, suspended, banned, in that order.
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FatboyCykes wrote:
[font="Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"]"NOTE: This is not a general discussion web site - even the thread for "general discussions" must be fairly related to open carry,firearms and gun rights. Please police your own posts before posting them and help keep OCDO strong and focussed. If you think the post is questionable, please don't post it. Thanks!"[/font]
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum1/1.html
So how strict do you think the rules should be enforced, if you're willing to participate in their violation yourself right here?
The leeway that the owner's allow is the very thing that makes it beneficial to discussions.
If a topic or post is that disagreeable to someone, then they should just not participate. But if someone wants to debate then by all means post.
How much more moderation is needed?
FatboyCykes wrote:
With that in mind then this thread is in violation of the following rule and the OP should be suspended.
[font="Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"]"NOTE: This is not a general discussion web site - even the thread for "general discussions" must be fairly related to open carry,firearms and gun rights. Please police your own posts before posting them and help keep OCDO strong and focussed. If you think the post is questionable, please don't post it. Thanks!"[/font]
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum1/1.html
So how strict do you think the rules should be enforced, if you're willing to participate in their violation yourself right here?
The leeway that the owner's allow is the very thing that makes it beneficial to discussions.
If a topic or post is that disagreeable to someone, then they should just not participate. But if someone wants to debate then by all means post.
How much more moderation is needed?
FatboyCykes
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CV67PAT wrote:
Your premise is ridiculous on it's face. If Mike and JP want to warn us for getting to General Topic-y, then I'll take up this debate with you, but they don't seem to care as again, this thread IS clearly, fairly OC related.
CV67PAT wrote:
How is this thread not clearly, fairly related to OC? And how does that have anything to do with respect?
Your premise is ridiculous on it's face. If Mike and JP want to warn us for getting to General Topic-y, then I'll take up this debate with you, but they don't seem to care as again, this thread IS clearly, fairly OC related.