ChuckWagon-SMVM
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Was at the park with my son. We had been there about 45 minutes. Its a beautiful park, with an cool castle motif playscape that is huge. My son needed to relieve himself we went off to find restrooms.
On our way back I see two Officers crossing the lawn towards us. My son had found some mud before our trip to the restroom and his whole hind end was muddy and wet. I had decided we would leave So I could change him. The officers engaged me in conversation as they got closer.
The very first thing is one of them asked was to see my other hand. As I was sort of askew weak sided to them. Which was just a function of positioning myself to watch them approach and keep my son in view. I turned more towards them and for a while kept my hand a little high( I had no problem with this being a bigger guy for all he knew I could have drawn and my size would have kept him from seeing it)
But any way small talk nice weather, beautiful day so forth. I responded yes but then asked them if I was being detained. They responded no. One of them said (Lets call him tanned guy he did most of their talking) said no just human beings talking to one another. I said that I appreciated that but I was in a hurry my son is all muddy I need to get him in to clean dry clothes.
I was trying to wrangle my son to me, he was not on his best behavior and it took a few requests. They then reengaged me in conversation something to the effect open carrying huh? I said yes and I volunteered that I also have a CPL (I know, I did not have to) He (tanned guy) responds that "you know carrying open like that violates your CPL" I responded no actually I emphatically know that is not true. He responded something to the effect of so were idiots, your calling us idiots. I said absolutely not your the police and you should really have a better handle on the law. I then said again I really need to go am I being detained or am I free to go? "Your are not being detained"
At which point my son had finally moved close enough for me to latch on to him and we moved back to the playscape area. Tanned guy and his partner kept back about 10 yards or so but shadowed us over to the picnic table where we had been sitting. We were at the park with a lady friend of mine she saw the parade behind me(she had been with me at Buffalo Wild wings Sunday night) She took care of my son at this time 2-3 more cars had arrived. Including 2 Sargents tanned guy and the new guys conregratted.
I had gathered up our late lunch paraphernalia and was disposing of the thrash when on of the Sargents approached me and began a conversation.
Hello how are you I know your open carrying and that it is legal. I said yes it is am I being detained. He said something to the effect no absolutely not. Did the other officers say you were you most certainly are not you have a 2nd ammendmant right to carry. Unfortunetly some one called. They don't understand and or are not comfortable with it. We have to come by and check things out.I told him I understand that. I dont see anything wrong here he said. I said yes we are here with my son we are enjoying the park but now its time to go he's fussy got a muddy wet pair of jeans and we are leaving. He was ok and said come back anytime then he added anytime the parks open.
Man! I've actively (everyday) open caried for about 7 months now with no police interaction then I get 2 in less than 48 hours. This one was more positive. I should not have talked to Tanned guy at all other then to ask if I was being detained. I guess the more it happens the better I will get at it. Like anything else in life
:celebrate
Was at the park with my son. We had been there about 45 minutes. Its a beautiful park, with an cool castle motif playscape that is huge. My son needed to relieve himself we went off to find restrooms.
On our way back I see two Officers crossing the lawn towards us. My son had found some mud before our trip to the restroom and his whole hind end was muddy and wet. I had decided we would leave So I could change him. The officers engaged me in conversation as they got closer.
The very first thing is one of them asked was to see my other hand. As I was sort of askew weak sided to them. Which was just a function of positioning myself to watch them approach and keep my son in view. I turned more towards them and for a while kept my hand a little high( I had no problem with this being a bigger guy for all he knew I could have drawn and my size would have kept him from seeing it)
But any way small talk nice weather, beautiful day so forth. I responded yes but then asked them if I was being detained. They responded no. One of them said (Lets call him tanned guy he did most of their talking) said no just human beings talking to one another. I said that I appreciated that but I was in a hurry my son is all muddy I need to get him in to clean dry clothes.
I was trying to wrangle my son to me, he was not on his best behavior and it took a few requests. They then reengaged me in conversation something to the effect open carrying huh? I said yes and I volunteered that I also have a CPL (I know, I did not have to) He (tanned guy) responds that "you know carrying open like that violates your CPL" I responded no actually I emphatically know that is not true. He responded something to the effect of so were idiots, your calling us idiots. I said absolutely not your the police and you should really have a better handle on the law. I then said again I really need to go am I being detained or am I free to go? "Your are not being detained"
At which point my son had finally moved close enough for me to latch on to him and we moved back to the playscape area. Tanned guy and his partner kept back about 10 yards or so but shadowed us over to the picnic table where we had been sitting. We were at the park with a lady friend of mine she saw the parade behind me(she had been with me at Buffalo Wild wings Sunday night) She took care of my son at this time 2-3 more cars had arrived. Including 2 Sargents tanned guy and the new guys conregratted.
I had gathered up our late lunch paraphernalia and was disposing of the thrash when on of the Sargents approached me and began a conversation.
Hello how are you I know your open carrying and that it is legal. I said yes it is am I being detained. He said something to the effect no absolutely not. Did the other officers say you were you most certainly are not you have a 2nd ammendmant right to carry. Unfortunetly some one called. They don't understand and or are not comfortable with it. We have to come by and check things out.I told him I understand that. I dont see anything wrong here he said. I said yes we are here with my son we are enjoying the park but now its time to go he's fussy got a muddy wet pair of jeans and we are leaving. He was ok and said come back anytime then he added anytime the parks open.
Man! I've actively (everyday) open caried for about 7 months now with no police interaction then I get 2 in less than 48 hours. This one was more positive. I should not have talked to Tanned guy at all other then to ask if I was being detained. I guess the more it happens the better I will get at it. Like anything else in life
:celebrate
