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The City of Warren OC Awareness Bike Ride Through Warren and Picnic

zigziggityzoo

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mikestilly wrote:
Thanks Springer. That should put the issue to bed.
Mike,

You're very wrong.

The laws don't work like you seem to think they work.

Definitions from one statute don't apply to another statute.

Vehicle is not defined in this statute.

750.227 applies SPECIFICALLY to pistols.

A bicycle, by definition, is a vehicle.

Therefore OCing while riding a bicycle could very well net you 750.227 violation, which is a FELONY.
 

autosurgeon

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zigziggityzoo wrote:
mikestilly wrote:
Thanks Springer. That should put the issue to bed.
Mike,

You're very wrong.

The laws don't work like you seem to think they work.

Definitions from one statute don't apply to another statute.

Vehicle is not defined in this statute.

750.227 applies SPECIFICALLY to pistols.

A bicycle, by definition, is a vehicle.

Therefore OCing while riding a bicycle could very well net you 750.227 violation, which is a FELONY.

This is exactly what an attorney friend of mine told me when we were discussing this thread.
 

mikestilly

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zigziggityzoo wrote:
mikestilly wrote:
So are you telling me if you have a CPL it still is illegal?

no.

You must have missed on page 2 when I said I added a disclaimer and that non-CPL holders ride at their own risk. ... Was confused why this came around a second time.. There's even an OC on bicycle thread out there already.
 

sasha601

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mikestilly wrote:
zigziggityzoo wrote:
mikestilly wrote:
So are you telling me if you have a CPL it still is illegal?

no.

You must have missed on page 2 when I said I added a disclaimer and that non-CPL holders ride at their own risk. ... Was confused why this came around a second time.. There's even an OC on bicycle thread out there already.
Since it can be considered CC on a bicycle,do not forgetto immidiatelydisclose that you are carrying a concealed pistol when approached by police.Even though it is in a full vew and cop can clearlysee it
 

autosurgeon

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There are a lot of little ways that you can be jammed up when OCing on either a bicycle or motorcycle so you need to really be on your toes and understand not only the law but what it requires you to do... such as notify as was mentioned above!

This is not an area that someone new to OC who has not memorized the law and fully understands the implications should go.. IMOP
 

Evil Creamsicle

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MICHIGANDER!?!?

Can I borrow a bike? :celebrate
Mine got stolen, as you know... [and yes, I know this was like... ten years ago and so no excuse.]
 
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mikestilly wrote:
The City of Warren OC Awareness Bike Ride Through Warren and Picnic

Bicycle ride to be more specific.
Disclaimer: *OC Bike Ride for CPL holders, non-cpl holders ride at your own risk.*
As everyone probably already knows Warren needs some improvement in OC awareness. This should be a fun way to do it.

Where To Meet (Bike Ride): My house will post address
Where To Meet (Picnic: Park at Halmich Park
Address: Halmich Park Warren, Michigan
From Date: Sat, 05/15/2010 @ 11:00am
Picnic Start Time: Noon
To Date: Sat, 05/15/2010 @ 4:00pm
Map: MAP
Forum Link: Forum

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CONFIRMED ATTENDANCE
Mikestilly
Michigander

POSSIBLE ATTENDANCE






Watch for the UFO.
 

Michigander

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Evil Creamsicle wrote:
MICHIGANDER!?!?

Can I borrow a bike? :celebrate
Mine got stolen, as you know... [and yes, I know this was like... ten years ago and so no excuse.]
Sounds good, we'll ride them from your place. :D
 
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mikestilly wrote:
The City of Warren OC Awareness Bike Ride Through Warren and Picnic

Bicycle ride to be more specific.
Disclaimer: *OC Bike Ride for CPL holders, non-cpl holders ride at your own risk.*
As everyone probably already knows Warren needs some improvement in OC awareness. This should be a fun way to do it.

Where To Meet (Bike Ride): My house will post address
Where To Meet (Picnic: Park at Halmich Park
Address: Halmich Park Warren, Michigan
From Date: Sat, 05/15/2010 @ 11:00am
Picnic Start Time: Noon
To Date: Sat, 05/15/2010 @ 4:00pm

Map: MAP

Forum Link: Forum



The UFO is coming.
 
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mikestilly wrote:
The City of Warren OC Awareness Bike Ride Through Warren and Picnic

Bicycle ride to be more specific.
Disclaimer: *OC Bike Ride for CPL holders, non-cpl holders ride at your own risk.*
As everyone probably already knows Warren needs some improvement in OC awareness. This should be a fun way to do it.

Where To Meet (Bike Ride): My house will post address
Where To Meet (Picnic: Park at Halmich Park
Address: Halmich Park Warren, Michigan
From Date: Sat, 05/15/2010 @ 11:00am
Picnic Start Time: Noon
To Date: Sat, 05/15/2010 @ 4:00pm
Map: MAP
Forum Link: Forum
The UFO is landing on Team Speak Sunday @ 6PM.
 

nate0486

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never been to an oc event, planning on this being my first one. (besides the utica gander mtn info seminar) Sounds like it should be a lot of fun. I am trying to get lots of my friends to attend to get more educated like i am trying to do off this site and other oc sites.
 
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