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    I am going to an event next week and will be parking in a school parking lot. Can I have an unloaded and encased handgun in my trunk ON school property?
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    Plankton wrote:
    I am going to an event next week and will be parking in a school parking lot. Can I have an unloaded and encased handgun in my trunk ON school property?
    Wisc. Stats. §948.605

    948.605 Gun−free school zones. (1) DEFINITIONS. In this
    section:
    (a) “Encased” has the meaning given in s. 167.31 (1) (b).
    (ac) “Firearm” does not include any beebee or pellet−firing
    gun that expels a projectile through the force of air pressure or any
    starter pistol.
    (am) “Motor vehicle” has the meaning given in s. 340.01 (35).
    (b) “School” has the meaning given in s. 948.61 (1) (b).
    (c) “School zone” means any of the following:
    1. In or on the grounds of a school.
    2. Within 1,000 feet from the grounds of a school.
    (2) POSSESSION OF FIREARM IN SCHOOL ZONE. (a) Any individual
    who knowingly possesses a firearm at a place that the individual
    knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone is
    guilty of a Class I felony.
    (b) Paragraph (a) does not apply to the possession of a firearm:

    1. On private property not part of school grounds;
    2. If the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so
    by a political subdivision of the state or bureau of alcohol, tobacco
    and firearms in which political subdivision the school zone is
    located, and the law of the political subdivision requires that,
    before an individual may obtain such a license, the law enforcement
    authorities of the political subdivision must verify that the
    individual is qualified under law to receive the license;
    3. That is not loaded and is:
    a. Encased; or
    b. In a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle;

    4. By an individual for use in a program approved by a school
    in the school zone;
    5. By an individual in accordance with a contract entered into
    between a school in the school zone and the individual or an
    employer of the individual;
    6. By a law enforcement officer or state−certified commission
    warden acting in his or her official capacity; or
    7. That is unloaded and is possessed by an individual while
    traversing school grounds for the purpose of gaining access to
    public or private lands open to hunting, if the entry on school
    grounds is authorized by school authorities.
    8. By a person who is legally hunting in a school forest if the
    school board has decided that hunting may be allowed in the
    school forest under s. 120.13 (38).

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    Short answer....Yes

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    J.Gleason wrote:
    Short answer....Yes
    Thanks.
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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Wisc. Stats. §948.605 Gun−free school zones.
    (2) POSSESSION OF FIREARM IN SCHOOL ZONE.
    (a) Any individual who knowingly possesses a firearm at a place that the
    individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone is guilty
    of a Class I felony.
    (b) Paragraph (a) does not apply to the possession of a firearm:

    3. That is not loaded and is:
    a. Encased
    I wouldn't want to be the one to get caught trying it, but from reading that it looks like I
    could carry an unloaded encased gun with me intoa school.

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    MKEgal wrote:
    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Wisc. Stats. §948.605 Gun−free school zones.
    (2) POSSESSION OF FIREARM IN SCHOOL ZONE.
    (a) Any individual who knowingly possesses a firearm at a place that the
    individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone is guilty
    of a Class I felony.
    (b) Paragraph (a) does not apply to the possession of a firearm:

    3. That is not loaded and is:
    a. Encased
    I wouldn't want to be the one to get caught trying it, but from reading that it looks like I could carry an unloaded encased gun with me intoa school.
    Fluttering, angelic, down from the heavens, perhaps avoiding "In or on the grounds of a school."

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    MKEgal wrote:
    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Wisc. Stats. §948.605 Gun−free school zones.
    (2) POSSESSION OF FIREARM IN SCHOOL ZONE.
    (a) Any individual who knowingly possesses a firearm at a place that the
    individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone is guilty
    of a Class I felony.
    (b) Paragraph (a) does not apply to the possession of a firearm:

    3. That is not loaded and is:
    a. Encased
    I wouldn't want to be the one to get caught trying it, but from reading that it looks like I
    could carry an unloaded encased gun with me intoa school.

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    Do not fall into the trap of only reading a single Statute. A School is a Building which is owned or leased by a political subdivision of the State. There is no allowance for even an unloaded and encased firearm unless you are blessed by the Chief LEO to do so.




    941.235 Carrying firearm in public building. (1)
    Any person who goes armed with a firearm in any building owned or leased by the state or any political subdivision of the state is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. (2) This section does not apply to peace officers or armed forces or military personnel who go armed in the line of duty or to any person duly authorized by the chief of police of any city, village or town, the chief of the capitol police, or the sheriff of any county to possess a firearm in any building under sub. (1). Notwithstanding s. 939.22 (22), for purposes of this subsection, peace officer does not include a commission warden who is not a state−certified commission warden.




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    The OP asked if he could have a firearm, unloaded, encased and in his vehicle while the vehicle is on School property. The answer is,"YES."

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    J.Gleason wrote:
    Short answer....Yes
    Need more of those around here.
    The 1911 pistol remains the service pistol of choice in the eyes of those who understand the problem. Back when we audited the FBI academy in 1947, I was told that I ought not to use my pistol in their training program because it was not fair. Maybe the first thing one should demand of his sidearm is that it be unfair. Col. Jeff Cooper, GUNS & AMMO, January 2002

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    J.Gleason wrote:
    The OP asked if he could have a firearm, unloaded, encased and in his vehicle while the vehicle is on School property. The answer is,"YES."
    Exactly. I was looking for "yes" or "no".
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    What a nice simple world it would be to live where answers were all yes or no. Just think, you could guess correctly 50% of the time.

    Unfortunately in this world it's more like 50/50 - 95%; fifty percent yea, fifty percent nay and ninety-five percent wrong.

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    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
    What a nice simple world it would be to live where answers were all yes or no. Just think, you could guess correctly 50% of the time.

    Unfortunately in this world it's more like 50/50 - 95%; fifty percent yea, fifty percent nay and ninety-five percent wrong.
    So, is it "yes" or "no"?
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    Plankton wrote:
    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
    What a nice simple world it would be to live where answers were all yes or no.* Just think, you could guess correctly 50% of the time.*

    Unfortunately in this world it's more like 50/50 - 95%; fifty percent yea, fifty percent nay and ninety-five percent wrong.
    So, is it "yes" or "no"?
    Who would freakin' know?
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    I personally am still curious about this part.


    b) Paragraph (a) does not apply to the possession of a firearm:
    1. On private property not part of school grounds;
    2. If the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so
    by a political subdivision of the state or bureau of alcohol, tobacco
    and firearms in which political subdivision the school zone is
    located, and the law of the political subdivision requires that,
    before an individual may obtain such a license, the law enforcement
    authorities of the political subdivision must verify that the
    individual is qualified under law to receive the license;
    3. That is not loaded and is:
    a. Encased; or
    b. In a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle;

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    scorpio_vette wrote:
    I personally am still curious about this part.


    b) Paragraph (a) does not apply to the possession of a firearm:
    1. On private property not part of school grounds;
    2. If the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so
    by a political subdivision of the state or bureau of alcohol, tobacco
    and firearms in which political subdivision the school zone is
    located, and the law of the political subdivision requires that,
    before an individual may obtain such a license, the law enforcement
    authorities of the political subdivision must verify that the
    individual is qualified under law to receive the license;
    3. That is not loaded and is:
    a. Encased; or
    b. In a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle;
    It is language which means nothing to you and I because the safe transportation statute prohibits us from having a firearm on or in a vehicle unless it is unloaded and encased. Complying with one statute does not exempt us from another.

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