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    How many people when open carrying don't use some type of retention holster?

    How many people do usesome type of retention holster? If so what kind do you use?

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    I use a Blackhawk Serpa for my 1911.



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    For my S&W Sigma 9mm, my first holster was a non-retention Fobus paddle. I upgraded to a Blackhawk Serpa level 2. For being out in public, especially crowds, I feel retention is important. Its' amazing how much safer you'll feel when you have retention.

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    i use a blackhawk serpa for my glock 9mm too

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    Blackhawk Serpa - SR9

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    Blackhawk serpa for Glock 23. keep in mind that serpas are not nice for your finish on your gun, but as long as you carry for protection reliability should be more important. not looks.

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    Blackhawk Serpa - Fits my M&P 9 and M&P 45.
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    I have done and do both. When I'm primarily CCing (winter) is use an OWB leather, open top holster. This means that if my jacket comes off I am now OCing with a non-retention holster. I don't like retention when I'm CCing because I have enough to deal with by having to handle the cover garment.

    When the weather is warmer and I am primarily OCing I use a retention holster. Currently it's a Blackhawk Serpa but I'll probably transition to leather w/retention strap as soon as I get off my butt and make myselfa couple:P

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    I carry a level II serpa as well. I don't know anyone who open carries without some kind of active retention.
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    I've hadpassive (Fobus)andactive retention holsters, and with the active retention, I've had Blackhawk Serpa style and thumb-break holsters.

    I preferactive retention with fastest deployment time, andBlackhawk Serpa fits the bill. Plus, they are reasonably priced.
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    I like Safariland level 2 or 3 holsters, but I also spent 6 months in Phoenix OCing almost every day with an uncle mikes sidekick. Not the best idea, but Phoenix is pretty wide open, and if you just mind who is within a few feet of you, it's doable, but not the best idea.

    In this oppressed suburban hell hole surrounding Detroit, I don't feel comfortable OCing without a good retention holster, particularly inside buildings or while walking down crowded streets.

    Anyway, the point of my rant is that I suggest at least level 2 retention for all urban/suburban OCing.


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    I OC with the Bianchi Carry Lok and with a Police holster that just has a steel reinforced thumb break.
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    I carry a level II Blackhawk Serpa.
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    Blackhawk Serpa Lvl II - 1911

    And I still feel like it's not enough retention in crowds.

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    office888 wrote:
    Blackhawk Serpa Lvl II - 1911

    And I still feel like it's not enough retention in crowds.
    Lvl III http://www.alternateforce.net/3level.html

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    My retention holster is a Safariland 6287.

    ETA: with Sentry to boost retention to level 2.

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    Level II Blackhawk Serpafor my XD works great i use a vega IWB for CC'ing but its not very comfortable with a full size semi-auto

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    Most of my OCing isn't done in crowds, when it isn't I can keep track of everybody around me just with good situational awareness I stick with my daily open-top. I do have a retention holster for my hip or my shoulder holster w/retention if I'm on my motorcycle. Just depends on the situation.

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    BAGMASTER Nylon Holster w/reinforced thumb break.

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    I carry in a leather holster with thumb break. Carry it at about 4 o'clock, and it's canted forward about 30 degrees. Very secure.

    Retention is especially important during OC.

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    Yes definitely a retention holster. I use a serpa level 2 for my glock 17. I like to have a knife handy too but currently my gerber ez out is on "loan" to the Southgate pd. :shock:

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    I use a Blackhawk Serpa level 2 for my Beretta 92FS

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    ChuckWagon-SMVM wrote:
    Yes definitely a retention holster. I use a serpa level 2 for my glock 17. I like to have a knife handy too but currently my gerber ez out is on "loan" to the Southgate pd. :shock:
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    I normally carry three. Of course only where legal to do so. They have all these city ordinances don't you know.


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    I use a Safariland 200 "Top Gun" Mid-Ride, Level I Retention Holster, I figure between the retention screw, thumb break and the natural tension of the interior suede, no one will be able to just casually walk up to me and yank my weapon out of it’s holster. I test it daily before going outsideand not even I can yank it out casually.

    Moreover, eagle-eyed situational awareness is what an OC’er should be relying on more than any mechanical trappings on his/her holster.

    Anything short of that is simply irresponsible to yourself and others
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