bwboley
Activist Member
So i sent a email to the sheriff sheriff@clark.wa.gov someone else replayed [mind you im not as good as joe on sending messages lol]
heres what i sent
Hello my name is Brad and on Sept 16 2010 I visited the Clark County
Courthouse and went to the east building west entrance to check my firearm in,
They were very rude and ask for my concealed permit even though i was open
carrying holsterd on my side, By law no id is required to check my fire arm,
Also they clearly went agaist state law RCW 9.41.300 By not handing me they key
to the lock box.
"In addition, the local legislative authority shall provide either a stationary
locked box sufficient in size for pistols and keyto a weapon ownerfor weapon
storage, or shall designate an official to receive weapons for safekeeping,
during the owner's visit to restricted areas of the building. The locked box or
designated official shall be located within the same building used in connection
with court proceedings. The local legislative authority shall be liable for any
negligence causing damage to or loss of a weapon either placed in a locked box
or left with an official during the owner's visit to restricted areas of the
building."
When i was leaving and picking up my firearm they made the people i was with
leave the public building and go out side while he was saying how he thinks it
was wrong that i was able to put my side arm on when hes unarmed himself and he
would not do it around people.
heres the reply
Brad,
I'm sorry that you believed that you were treated rudely and if you could provide an estimated time that you visited the Courthouse on Sept. 16th, I may be able to talk to the screener which you encountered.
Regarding the firearms issue. You do have a right to open carry, under RCW 9.41.300 the courthouse is excluded. Also under this same RCW, the local judicial authority shall provide a means for persons to secure their weapon within the same building in which the restricted areas are located. The Clark County Sheriff's Office provides the required storage devices at the West Entrance of the Courthouse. This location is for persons to secure weapons who desire to enter the Courthouse, which is restricted from firearms consistent with State Law.
There is nothing stated in the law which states that we can or cannot ask persons for ID which we are storing their firearm. The law does state that the judicial authority is liable for those items. Since the Sheriff's Office is liable, I believe that we would be negligent if we didn't ask for ID. If for some reason the owner of the weapon forgot to retrieve their firearm, or in the case of some sort of an emergency which would not allow you to retrieve your firearm, we would need some method to ensure that the weapon was returned to the rightful owner.
Our policies have been reviewed by legal counsel and have been determined to be consistent with the provisions outlined in RCW 9.41.300.
Regarding the conduct of our contracted staff, if you can give me a time of your arrival and departure, that would enable us to discuss this matter with our staff.
If I can be of any further assistance, feel free to contact our office.
Commander Keith A. Kilian
Clark County Sheriff's Office
West Precinct
505 NW 179th Street
Ridgefield, WA.
Direct Line: 360-397-6080
Precinct Line: 360-397-6079
E-Mail: keith.kilian@clark.wa.gov
heres what i sent
Hello my name is Brad and on Sept 16 2010 I visited the Clark County
Courthouse and went to the east building west entrance to check my firearm in,
They were very rude and ask for my concealed permit even though i was open
carrying holsterd on my side, By law no id is required to check my fire arm,
Also they clearly went agaist state law RCW 9.41.300 By not handing me they key
to the lock box.
"In addition, the local legislative authority shall provide either a stationary
locked box sufficient in size for pistols and keyto a weapon ownerfor weapon
storage, or shall designate an official to receive weapons for safekeeping,
during the owner's visit to restricted areas of the building. The locked box or
designated official shall be located within the same building used in connection
with court proceedings. The local legislative authority shall be liable for any
negligence causing damage to or loss of a weapon either placed in a locked box
or left with an official during the owner's visit to restricted areas of the
building."
When i was leaving and picking up my firearm they made the people i was with
leave the public building and go out side while he was saying how he thinks it
was wrong that i was able to put my side arm on when hes unarmed himself and he
would not do it around people.
heres the reply
Brad,
I'm sorry that you believed that you were treated rudely and if you could provide an estimated time that you visited the Courthouse on Sept. 16th, I may be able to talk to the screener which you encountered.
Regarding the firearms issue. You do have a right to open carry, under RCW 9.41.300 the courthouse is excluded. Also under this same RCW, the local judicial authority shall provide a means for persons to secure their weapon within the same building in which the restricted areas are located. The Clark County Sheriff's Office provides the required storage devices at the West Entrance of the Courthouse. This location is for persons to secure weapons who desire to enter the Courthouse, which is restricted from firearms consistent with State Law.
There is nothing stated in the law which states that we can or cannot ask persons for ID which we are storing their firearm. The law does state that the judicial authority is liable for those items. Since the Sheriff's Office is liable, I believe that we would be negligent if we didn't ask for ID. If for some reason the owner of the weapon forgot to retrieve their firearm, or in the case of some sort of an emergency which would not allow you to retrieve your firearm, we would need some method to ensure that the weapon was returned to the rightful owner.
Our policies have been reviewed by legal counsel and have been determined to be consistent with the provisions outlined in RCW 9.41.300.
Regarding the conduct of our contracted staff, if you can give me a time of your arrival and departure, that would enable us to discuss this matter with our staff.
If I can be of any further assistance, feel free to contact our office.
Commander Keith A. Kilian
Clark County Sheriff's Office
West Precinct
505 NW 179th Street
Ridgefield, WA.
Direct Line: 360-397-6080
Precinct Line: 360-397-6079
E-Mail: keith.kilian@clark.wa.gov
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