lapeer20m
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was oc'ing on my motorcycle in a thigh rig today, like i always do. I have about 500 miles in so far this spring.
Was cruising around the city of Lapeer enjoying the sunshine and got pulled over by county leo.
I did not have my voice recorder with me...forgot and left it at work.
I broke my own rule, and talked. I know the officer(s) involved as i used to work emergency services in the county, not a good excuse, i know.
Basically the conversation was the same as many other leo interactions. "you are violating you cpl right now" "you have to carry concealed" The officer is aware of open carry, because he talked about it, and said that it is legal to walk down the sidewalk open carrying, but not legal on a motorcycle. Something about how a pistol in a vehicle needs to be unloaded and out of reach. I politely told him that i wasn't going to argue, but disagreed and believed that open carry on a motorcycle it is perfectly legal.
After going back to his vehicle and making a phone call (prosecutor probably) he gave me back my registration/insurance etc.
Then he and another officer gave me a stern talking to and told me how disappointed they were that I of all people were open carrying. They said that if people call 911 then they will have to respond, and it will be a big pain for them. I apologized for that, but they didn't want to hear it.
I don't want to create extra work for the police department. If there is a problem with the 911 dispatch system, perhaps that should be addressed, but i really don't feel i was the one in the wrong today. The officer who conducted an illegal terry stop should not be angry with me.
I am going to foia the incident.
no tickets.
was oc'ing on my motorcycle in a thigh rig today, like i always do. I have about 500 miles in so far this spring.
Was cruising around the city of Lapeer enjoying the sunshine and got pulled over by county leo.
I did not have my voice recorder with me...forgot and left it at work.
I broke my own rule, and talked. I know the officer(s) involved as i used to work emergency services in the county, not a good excuse, i know.
Basically the conversation was the same as many other leo interactions. "you are violating you cpl right now" "you have to carry concealed" The officer is aware of open carry, because he talked about it, and said that it is legal to walk down the sidewalk open carrying, but not legal on a motorcycle. Something about how a pistol in a vehicle needs to be unloaded and out of reach. I politely told him that i wasn't going to argue, but disagreed and believed that open carry on a motorcycle it is perfectly legal.
After going back to his vehicle and making a phone call (prosecutor probably) he gave me back my registration/insurance etc.
Then he and another officer gave me a stern talking to and told me how disappointed they were that I of all people were open carrying. They said that if people call 911 then they will have to respond, and it will be a big pain for them. I apologized for that, but they didn't want to hear it.
I don't want to create extra work for the police department. If there is a problem with the 911 dispatch system, perhaps that should be addressed, but i really don't feel i was the one in the wrong today. The officer who conducted an illegal terry stop should not be angry with me.
I am going to foia the incident.
no tickets.