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is that an fn 5seven on the left?

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i'm a little old school

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im likin the cz alot

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Never CC.

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marrero jeff wrote:

is that an fn 5seven on the left?

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Unfortunately :/

I really dont understand the 5.7x28 following....

whatever.

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ItTakesAWolf wrote:

marrero jeff wrote:

is that an fn 5seven on the left?

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Unfortunately :/

I really dont understand the 5.7x28 following....

whatever.

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its an ugly gun but if you get attacked by a BG in body armor it'll take care of the situation pretty well.......

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ItTakesAWolf wrote:

brokenbarrel wrote:

ItTakesAWolf wrote:

marrero jeff wrote:

is that an fn 5seven on the left?

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Unfortunately :/

I really dont understand the 5.7x28 following....

whatever.

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its an ugly gun but if you get attacked by a BG in body armor it'll take care of the situation pretty well.......

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lol ya I forgot about all those crazy crack heads robbing people while wearing body armor and ballistic helmets...

with inner city self defense, I go out of my way to AVOID over penetration...I try to make the biggest hole possible, dump ALL the energy and hope it doesn't come out the other side...the 5.7 is a tiny little bullet moving really really fast...its designed specifically to defeat armor with military/LE loads...and it is the exact opposite of what ive been chasing in a self defense caliber for so long.

I dont know about you, but I dont run into too many thugs in a bad neighborhood looking to ruff someone up that are THAT prepared to encounter resistance to the point that they strap on vests.... or people that are desperate enough to try to rob me that can afford to buy and keep body armor....seems like a gun that would excel in a pretty specific AMAZINGLY unlikely scenario...

I think there are much more appropriate calibers out there for that application.


meh forget I even said anything...id rather die than debate this 5.7 thing again...

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http://www.brassfetcher.com/5.7x28mm.html
^ I wouldn't worry about over penetration with the civi round, maybe even worry about under penetration.
I'd still rather trust my life to my .45ACP or .50GI

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[font=TimesNewRoman,Bold,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Actual Shootings [/font]
[align=left][font="TimesNewRoman,Times New Roman,Times,serif"]In the authors’ ongoing study of violence against law enforcement officers, they have examined several cases where officers used large-caliber hand guns with limited effect displayed by the offenders. In one case, the subject attacked the officer with a knife. The officer shot the individual four times in the chest; then, his weapon malfunctioned. The offender continued to walk toward the officer. After the officer cleared his weapon, he fired again and struck the subject in the chest. [/font][font="TimesNewRoman,Times New Roman,Times,serif"]Only then did the offender drop the knife. This individual was hit five times with 230-grain, .45-caliber hollow-point ammunition and never fell to the ground. The offender later stated, “The wounds felt like bee stings.” [/font][/align]
[align=left][font="TimesNewRoman,Times New Roman,Times,serif"]In another case, officers fired six .40-caliber, hollow-point rounds at a subject who pointed a gun at them. Each of the six rounds hit the individual with no visible effect. The seventh round severed his spinal cord, and the offender fell to the ground, dropping his weapon. This entire firefight was captured by several officers’ in-car video cameras. [/font][/align]
[align=left][font="TimesNewRoman,Times New Roman,Times,serif"]In a final case, the subject shot the victim officer in the chest with a handgun and fled. The officer, wearing a bullet-resistant vest, returned gunfire. The officer’s partner observed the incident and also fired at the offender. Subsequent investigation determined that the individual was hit 13 times and, yet, ran several blocks to a gang member’s house. He later said, “I was so scared by all those shots; it sounded like the Fourth of July.” Again, according to the subject, his wounds “only started to hurt when I woke up in the hospital.” The officers had used 9-millimeter, department-issued ammunition. The surviving officers re ported that they felt vulnerable. [/font][/align]
[font="TimesNewRoman,Times New Roman,Times,serif"]They wondered if they had done some thing wrong that caused their injury or placed them in the proximity of physical danger. They also wondered if they would react differently if faced with a similar situation.[/font]

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I just want to say,
your beard, your hat and your hair
are @#$%ing awesome.

And that's my Haiku for the day.

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