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    It's all over the news today that Rep. Eric Cantor's office was vandalized earlier this week by a bullet shattering a front window.

    A story published on the WRIC web site indicates the impact was in a downward motion, which, unless the shot was taken from a nearby rooftop, would indicate either a random, or extremely lucky shot from far away.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...hot-overnight/

    WRIC Story:

    http://www.wric.com/global/Story.asp?s=12203579

    Shot Fired Into Cantor's Richmond Office

    Richmond Police are investigating what they are calling an "act of vandalism" after U.S. Rep. Eric Cantor's local campaign office was struck with gunfire earlier this week.

    Richmond Police officials said their investigating revealed the bullet was fired into the air, then struck the window in a downward direction, with enough force to shatter the glass.

    No one was inside the building at the time of the shooting, approximately 1 a.m. Tuesday. The office is located in the Reagan Building, 25 East Main Street.

    Richmond Police officials said the department is sharing information about their investigation with other law enforcement agencies, including Homeland Security.

    No suspects have been named. Stay with 8news for updates.


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    TFred wrote:
    It's all over the news today that Rep. Eric Cantor's office was vandalized earlier this week by a bullet shattering a front window.

    A story published on the WRIC web site indicates the impact was in a downward motion, which, unless the shot was taken from a nearby rooftop, would indicate either a random, or extremely lucky shot from far away.

    TFred

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...hot-overnight/

    WRIC Story:

    http://www.wric.com/global/Story.asp?s=12203579

    Shot Fired Into Cantor's Richmond Office

    Richmond Police are investigating what they are calling an "act of vandalism" after U.S. Rep. Eric Cantor's local campaign office was struck with gunfire earlier this week.

    Richmond Police officials said their investigating revealed the bullet was fired into the air, then struck the window in a downward direction, with enough force to shatter the glass.

    No one was inside the building at the time of the shooting, approximately 1 a.m. Tuesday. The office is located in the Reagan Building, 25 East Main Street.

    Richmond Police officials said the department is sharing information about their investigation with other law enforcement agencies, including Homeland Security.

    No suspects have been named. Stay with 8news for updates.
    I shot a bullet into the air
    and where it lands
    I know not where

    It doesn't surprise me. Night time in some parts of Richmond sounds like the opening day of Dove season

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    Cantor says shot fired at campaign office building
    The Richmond Police Department is investigating an act of vandalism agsinst the Reagan Building, 25 E. Main St., where Rep. Eric I. Cantor, R-7th, has a campagn office.

    Police said a first floor window was struck by a bullet at around 1 a.m. on Tuesday. The building was not occupied, police said. A preliminary investigation determined that a bullet was fired into the air and struck the window at a downward direction, landing about a foot from the window. The bullet had enough force to break the windowpane but not penetrate the window blinds, according to a news release.

    There are no suspects, Gene Lepley, a spokesman for the department, said.
    Some Democrats are accusing Cantor of lying:
    Yesterday, Congressman Van Hollen called upon Republican leaders to condemn the harsh rhetoric that is fanning the flames of extremism around the country. Today, Mr. Cantor had the opportunity to join Mr. Van Hollen in calling for restraint. Instead, he chose to use his press conference to level false accusations. This is straight out of the Republicans' political playbook of deflecting responsibility and distracting attention away from a serious issue.
    - Doug Thornell, spokesman for Rep. Chris Van Hollen.

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    I think I remember what sounded like a gun shot late tuesday night. Maybe this was it as my apt. is only 3 blocks away. Then again, maybe that was last night I heard the "noise". I cant remember, I need sleep.

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    Talked about on the Doc Thompson show today.

    Other news report on WRVA indicated that the round was falling, didn't shatter the window, punched a hole and ended up on the inside sill w/o going through the blinds.

    Sounds like a shot that had lost most of its velocity, not likely aimed at that window as a target. Vandalism is how it was described.

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    Talked about on the Doc Thompson show today.

    Other news report on WRVA indicated that the round was falling, didn't shatter the window, punched a hole and ended up on the inside sill w/o going through the blinds.

    Sounds like a shot that had lost most of its velocity, not likely aimed at that window as a target. Vandalism is how it was described.

    Yata hey
    Thats what I just heard as well.

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    The police are admitting it was just random gunfire now.

    Police On Cantor Incident: 'We're Calling It Random Gunfire' (VIDEO)http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo...re.php?ref=fpa

    Good thing I already disliked him. I don't have to work up to it now.



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    peter nap wrote:
    TFred wrote:
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    I shot a bullet into the air
    and where it lands
    I know not where

    It doesn't surprise me. Night time in some parts of Richmond sounds like the opening day of Dove season
    That's why Iwear my reinforced tin foil hat when heading downtown at night.
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    peter nap wrote:
    It doesn't surprise me. Night time in some parts of Richmond sounds like the opening day of Dove season
    Oh,oh. Now you've earned the wrath of kenny

    Yata hey
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    Doesn't Richmond's rat season start on New Year's Eve?



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    I thought it was year round.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    I have made enough inappropriate jokes today....I'll just leave that one alone

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    I can assure you it is definately year round. Just different kinds/more rats

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    peter nap wrote:
    I have made enough inappropriate jokes today....I'll just leave that one alone
    Then its safe to come back out?

    And OC to the breakfast?



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    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Has anyone seen a photo of the bullet hole? The only one I've seen is not from a bullet falling from a high angle but a straight on shot. It also appears to be of a hole in laminated safety glass, not the type of glass you would find in a large window. So I don't think that photo was authentic.

    Here's the link to the story with a photo of the supposed hole.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_514651.html

    Here's my synopsis of the hole:

    That's BS. If that's a photo of the actual bullet hole then it was fired level to the ground. You can tell by the shape of of the hole and the symetry of the fracturing. In fact I'd say the bullet might have been fired pointed slightly to the right of straight in.

    Here's a photo of a bullet hole through a windshield. The angle of the windshield simulates a bullet falling from above as if from a shot into the air coming back down. The photo is at the very bottom of the page of the "Buick of Truth!"...

    http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/buickot1.htm

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    Neplusultra wrote:
    Has anyone seen a photo of the bullet hole? The only one I've seen is not from a bullet falling from a high angle but a straight on shot. It also appears to be of a hole in laminated safety glass, not the type of glass you would find in a large window. So I don't think that photo was authentic.

    Here's the link to the story with a photo of the supposed hole.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_514651.html

    Here's my synopsis of the hole:

    That's BS. If that's a photo of the actual bullet hole then it was fired level to the ground. You can tell by the shape of of the hole and the symetry of the fracturing. In fact I'd say the bullet might have been fired pointed slightly to the right of straight in.

    Here's a photo of a bullet hole through a windshield. The angle of the windshield simulates a bullet falling from above as if from a shot into the air coming back down. The photo is at the very bottom of the page of the "Buick of Truth!"...

    http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/buickot1.htm
    That is definitely NOT a hole from a spent dropping round!

    Huffington Post is not particularly know for truth and accuracy.
    They likely substituted an archived photo for the story.

    Actually, the bottom photo is typical of shooting through a laminated windshield at close range and doesn't really look a hole made by a spent round falling and going through plate glass at all.

    Below is a typical bullet hole in plate glass - note the conical shape to the hole. This glass was impacted from a fairly straight on shot though.

    Heavy enough plate glass and/or slow spent round will not likely produce much spider webbing at all.



    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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