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    I would hope the Brady supporters read this ... ...

    http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/daily..._meade_cha.php

    Then read this ... ...

    http://www.komonews.com/news/local/89139087.html



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    Kudos to the "fellow officer" who recounted the quote. That's a pretty damning piece of testimony.

    It takes guts and a healthy conscience to cross the "blue line" and give a statement that may help put away someone you work with in such a capacity.

    Its a good example of LE policing LE and holding each-other accountable.

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    This is why I dont trust LEOs, fortunatly the vast majority are not like this. Its just hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones.
    Throw me to the wolves and I will come back leading the pack.

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    Why didnt they just taze him a few more times?
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
    what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

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    Orphan wrote:
    This is why I dont trust LEOs, fortunatly the vast majority are not like this. Its just hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones.
    Interesting, when folks use language like that about blacks or Jews,they arecalledbigots.

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    I don't think any of us can guess what exactly was going through that guys mind. I hate DUI as much as the next guy, but when I first read about this I knew it was going to be a firestorm.

    As bad as it may sound this is a great one for the kids, "Don't drink and drive...cause you never know when you might get that really pissed-off cop."

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    I have always worried that an officer like this would blast a Open Carrier and then claim that he was "twitching like an Addict" and had "Lunged at him"as has been used by other officers to smear OC's

    Happily this has not transpired, though several of us have felt the lash of the "Justice system" in various encounters (Vancouver being only the latest).

    Seven times in the back...wow.

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    erps wrote:
    Orphan wrote:
    This is why I dont trust LEOs, fortunatly the vast majority are not like this. Its just hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones.
    Interesting, when folks use language like that about blacks or Jews,they arecalledbigots.
    Dude ... you are way off track !

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    Dude ... you are way off track !
    I couldbe, but try it yourself and see how it sounds. Substitute LEO for Jew or black or any other minority group and see how it sounds. I would demonstrate it myself, but I don't want that kind of language associated with my name.



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    erps wrote:
    Dude ... you are way off track !
    I couldbe, but try it yourself and see how it sounds. Substitute LEO for Jew or black or any other minority group and see how it sounds. I would demonstrate it myself, but I don't want that kind of language associated with my name.

    Did you read both articles and get the full understanding of what happened?

    Learn the full story before you come in here and puke on us and throw out the race card .... what happened has nothing to do with race as there are white, black, green, and red police officers..... while you are at it why don't you throw out the gender card too, yeah thats it lets make it a gender issue or how about lets pretend the LEO was gay blah, blah, blah ..... he was this or that does not matter.

    Regardless .... he shot someone to death, for no good reason.



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    OR even better:

    This is why I dont trust open-carriers, fortunatly the vast majority are not like this. Its just hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones.

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    Norman wrote:
    OR even better:

    This is why I dont trust open-carriers, fortunatly the vast majority are not like this. Its just hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones.
    ???????????????????????
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
    what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

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    Did you read both articles and get the full understanding of what happened ? Learn the full story before you come in here and puke on us and throw out the race card ..
    I'm not puking on you or throwing out the race card. Go back and read my post again and then read Norman's post where he substituted LEO for open carrier. Does Norman's substitution sound offensive?

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    erps wrote:
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    This is why I dont trust LEOs, fortunatly the vast majority are not like this. Its just hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones.
    Interesting, when folks use language like that about blacks or Jews,they arecalledbigots.
    So, what are you saying here, erps? Are you saying that Orphanis bigoted against LEOs? Are Leo's a protected class in your view?

    Don't get your feelings hurt, erps. I don't trust anybody, including LEOs, until I get to know them.

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    Ajetpilot wrote:
    erps wrote:
    Orphan wrote:
    This is why I dont trust LEOs, fortunatly the vast majority are not like this. Its just hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones.
    Interesting, when folks use language like that about blacks or Jews,they arecalledbigots.
    So, what are you saying here, erps? Are you saying that Orphanis bigoted against LEOs? Are Leo's a protected class in your view?

    Don't get your feelings hurt, erps. I don't trust anybody, including LEOs, until I get to know them.

    Well said: get to know who you are dealing with ..... then judge them based on where their moral compass points.


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    This is why I dont trust (insert class), fortunately the vast majority are not like this. Its just hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones.


    Ithink a primary difference exists thatjustifies the statement regarding LEO. None of the classes, minority or otherwise, have the power or authority to hinder, hamper or even destroy ones life under the color of the law. So to that ends, i would cast justification onto that statement in regards to LEO, or any authority type. If one carries that sort of power, one must then accept that spotlight too.

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    Are you saying that Orphan is bigoted against LEOs?
    His statement sounds bigoted to me.


    Are Leo's a protected class in your view?
    Nope.


    Don't get your feelings hurt, erps.
    It gets real old Jet.

    I don't trust anybody, including LEOs, until I get to know them.
    I can respect that. That's equal treatment.

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    Batousaii wrote:
    Ithink a primary difference exists thatjustifies the statement regarding LEO. None of the classes, minority or otherwise, have the power or authority to hinder, hamper or even destroy ones life under the color of the law. So to that ends, i would cast justification onto that statement in regards to LEO, or any authority type. If one carries that sort of power, one must then accept that spotlight too.

    - Just my thoughts.
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    Bersa.380 wrote:
    Batousaii wrote:
    Ithink a primary difference exists thatjustifies the statement regarding LEO. None of the classes, minority or otherwise, have the power or authority to hinder, hamper or even destroy ones life under the color of the law. So to that ends, i would cast justification onto that statement in regards to LEO, or any authority type. If one carries that sort of power, one must then accept that spotlight too.

    - Just my thoughts.
    B i n g o ! ! !
    Now .... can we get back on topic ???

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    Bersa.380 wrote:
    Ajetpilot wrote:
    erps wrote:
    Orphan wrote:
    This is why I dont trust LEOs, fortunatly the vast majority are not like this. Its just hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones.
    Interesting, when folks use language like that about blacks or Jews,they arecalledbigots.
    So, what are you saying here, erps? Are you saying that Orphanis bigoted against LEOs? Are Leo's a protected class in your view?

    Don't get your feelings hurt, erps. I don't trust anybody, including LEOs, until I get to know them.

    Well said: get to know who you are dealing with ..... then judge them based on where their moral compass points.

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    I'm with Erps. It was a blanket statement, and totally inappropriate. On that note it's his/her loss if they don't trust cops because 1 cop goes crazy. Certainly doesn't do anything to help the "gun owners are all paranoid" line I read all too often.

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    erps did not come out and directly call anyone a bigot, but make a general statement.

    If you are offended then you should be looking in the mirror for self reflection.

    These childish idiots that always want to call the Troll Card when someone else has a different view, get over it and yourself.

    What is amazing there are those who would be offended when such a statement was made about the legally armed but then direct it toward law enforcement.
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    BigDave wrote:
    erps did not come out and directly call anyone a bigot, but make a general statement.

    If you are offended then you should be looking in the mirror for self reflection.

    These childish idiots that always want to call the Troll Card when someone else has a different view, get over it and yourself.


    EDIT: Cite for those who don't already know.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
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    killchain wrote:
    POINT CONFIRMED
    • Being prepared is to prepare, this is our responsibility.
    • I am not your Mommy or Daddy and do not sugar coat it but I will tell you simply as how I see it, it is up to you on how you will or will not use it.
    • IANAL, all information I present is for your review, do your own homework.

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    I was last stopped and given a ticket in, uh, it was a long time ago, maybe 1978.

    Needless to say I'm not all that familiar with being accosted by LEOs.

    I do have this fear, though, since I am handicapped, that some more-twitchy-than-average officer might some day stop my for whatever reason (maybe my car matches a description of one involved in an armed robbery or something) and see my inability to comply with some shouted demand of theirs as willful non-compliance.

    Does this cause me to be afraid of police officers? Not really, because most of them I've met appear to be reasonable and decent human beings. Thing is, there are some out there that are not.

    I suspect a part of that problem is that after dealing with so many "bad guys" and seeing almost nothing BUT bad guys in their day-to-day job (or at the very least having people lie to them on a regular basis) they become a bit jaded and begin viewing everyone as a bad guy and subject to their every whim.

    Even just "keep your hands up and step out of the vehicle" isn't something that is going to happen, no mater how many times someone yells it at me. Demanding "face away and walk backwards towards my voice" is not going to happen, either.

    Hopefully whoever stops me will also keep his mind and ears open and listen to me say "unable to comply" (pilots will understand that) and understand it is not choice but necessity.

    Sadly, that is where the fear I first mentioned comes from: Fully expecting anything I attempt to say to be completely ignored by a single-minded focus on total compliance as the shouted demands keep getting louder and louder until some thug decides I'm willfully not complying and escalates. Hopefully I will survive.



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