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    Someone posted this on another forum, and I wanted to run it by the open carry people here.

    This is a test.

    http://backhand.uchicago.edu/Center/ShooterEffect/



    Try it and tell me how you do





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    Well, I didn't notice the race of most of them. I knew it was a shooter test, so was watching for firearms.

    I didn't shoot unless the person had his handgun pointed at me -- and the test said I got shot a lot.

    I get this result on a lot of these tests. I fail to notice obvious things, like skin color.
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    Tess wrote:
    Well, I didn't notice the race of most of them. I knew it was a shooter test, so was watching for firearms.

    I didn't shoot unless the person had his handgun pointed at me -- and the test said I got shot a lot.

    I get this result on a lot of these tests. I fail to notice obvious things, like skin color.


    1st guy got it.

    I read the directions and was like wtf?

    Press / to shoot folks with guns?


    This didn't seem to be so much a racism test, as it was a clever way to create a negative association with guns

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    Game Over
    Your Score: 625
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:742.64ms
    Black Unarmed:850.88ms
    White Armed:803.08ms
    White Unarmed:785.04ms

    Reminds me of the Shoot. Don't Shoot training films.

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    Wow whoever made this thing needs to understand when it is OK to shoot someone. Nobody holding a gun seemed to be threatening or aiming at me or anyone else. So I got shot every time. I didn't shoot a single person.

    STUPIDITY

    But surprise surprise it's from Chi-town.

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    Your Score: -1750
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:557ms
    Black Unarmed:587.4ms
    White Armed:571.24ms
    White Unarmed:577.56ms

    I guess they tried to make more clinically accurate by making everyone emotionless as a control factor. The result is a bunch of people who are just posing for photos. I don't see firearm possession, even in your hand, as a threat in itself.
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    That's kind of clever and funny.... however it's hardly scientific for a "racism test", as a photographer, I can tell you that darker skin tone hands can potentially blend through lack of contrast with objects in the hand. So it often took me longer to recognize a cell phone versus a gun, especially for the dark cellphones, dark wallets, and dark guns.

    Game Over
    Your Score: 710
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:678.48ms
    Black Unarmed:706.6ms
    White Armed:692.52ms
    White Unarmed:679.88ms

    Bottom line, I don't care what you look like, I'll treat you the same especially if you're a threat.

    EDIT: simmonsjoe, I noticed that too and at first thought this was a trick but it is just a quick and dirty stats builder, although, that would have made an interesting twist in the game. It should be added like that for effect.

    Also, I think the trends will probably show that "blacks unarmed" will typically be the higher time across the board.

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    I shoot the kids.

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    Pace wrote:
    I shoot the kids.

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    Game Over
    Your Score: 475
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:622.4ms
    Black Unarmed:726.4ms
    White Armed:611.4ms
    White Unarmed:671.4ms

    I just looked at the hands. Hands kill, y'all
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    Joe Schmedlap out there with a loaded weapon thinking he's going to deter crime and he's not even trained to fire his weapon safely just kinda makes my hair on the back of my neck stand up.

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    I only went about half way through it. I realized that the directions for which key to use to shoot or holster were backwards. I was shooting all the umarmed people and getting shot by all the armed ones.

    Since it came from the University of Chicago, you know it had to be rigged.

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    Game Over
    Your Score: 345
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:736.64ms
    Black Unarmed:974.92ms
    White Armed:950.12ms
    White Unarmed:997.8ms

    stupid that you loose points for slow holstering, for the good guys

    im not sure if the best score should be high or low?

    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

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    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    Game Over
    Your Score: 600
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:614.64ms
    Black Unarmed:635.76ms
    White Armed:607.4ms
    White Unarmed:588.44ms

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    Game Over
    Your Score: -1765
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:505.44ms
    Black Unarmed:636.72ms
    White Armed:531.08ms
    White Unarmed:541.8ms

    Lots of guns, but no threats. No shots fired.

    Look at the hands, not the eyes. They say that its the looks that kill. They dont, hands do. Watch the hands.

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    For you guys scoring low on purpose, you're not really making a point. You know the rules of the "game"

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    Game Over
    Your Score: 595
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:692.16ms
    Black Unarmed:802.52ms
    White Armed:682.24ms
    White Unarmed:763.44ms

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    @ longwatch's attached image

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    That was dumb.

    I stopped about halfway through when I realized I wasn't even noticing skin color until after I'd chosen.

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    Another pre-determined rigged "proof" for the anti's

    I also agree, the darker skin tone made for a longer pause to identify the object ... it wasn't skin color that I was reacting to ... it was the presence of the gun and since it was in a non-threatening position, I didn't get the first ones, and took too long to holster and ... well, it is definitely slanted so that if you do well, you can be called trigger-happy, and if you don't do well, you are not qualified to be carrying a gun ...

    Game Over
    Your Score: 245
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:737.8ms
    Black Unarmed:868.36ms
    White Armed:685.88ms
    White Unarmed:755.12ms

    According to this, I am more likely to shoot at an armed white guy, and it takes me longer to identify whether a black guy is armed or not. And this is measuring in micro-seconds?


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    Game Over
    Your Score: 205
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:761.64ms
    Black Unarmed:884.12ms
    White Armed:810.72ms
    White Unarmed:745.72ms

    second try for me
    i took more time, but thought i was more accurite
    got a lower score
    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    Game Over
    Your Score: -5
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:999.84ms
    Black Unarmed:1107.48ms
    White Armed:1039ms
    White Unarmed:1247.28ms

    im gettin good at this!!

    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    Game Over
    Your Score: 485
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:828.96ms
    Black Unarmed:859.4ms
    White Armed:760.36ms
    White Unarmed:866.52ms

    slightly slower times, with absolutly zero mistakes

    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    ran the test again slow and carefull, this time i took some notes

    shoot the bad guy fast =+10
    shoot the bad guy slow =-10
    holster the good guy fast =+5
    holster the good guy slow =-10
    shoot the good guy =-20
    dont shoot the bad guy =-40

    there is 120 pics to act on, im figuring 1/2 are good and 1/2 are bad
    so best score would be 60 times 10 for shooting the bad guy fast, plus 60 times 5 for holstering for the good guy fast
    600 best score

    there is no way to run this test with any reguard of race, it is just bogus, you loose points twice as fast for being slow and carefull, you can only gain points by looking only at the hand!
    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    Game Over
    Your Score: 700
    Average reaction time:
    Black Armed:614.44ms
    Black Unarmed:777ms
    White Armed:642.04ms
    White Unarmed:700.48ms

    so maybe my calculations werent quite right
    this time i only got a few, too slows.
    and i dont think i made any wrong choices

    i tell you what thou,,
    ill bet BIGDAVE would be real proud about all the training i got tonight
    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    okboomer wrote:
    And this is measuring in micro-seconds?
    Learn your SI units. :P

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    Got shot once and killed everybody else. Couldn't remember which button to press so I am an equal opportunity hater. Wonder why they say I am Grumpy?
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