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I doubt it as it was not a FIREARM.

Also it was not loaded....

Here is another question what if instead we used blue training guns for this type of situation?? How would you feel about that?

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17 post's and you are already trying to start drama? Not a great way to get to know everyone.

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autosurgeon wrote:

I doubt it as it was not a FIREARM.

Also it was not loaded....

Here is another question what if instead we used blue training guns for this type of situation?? How would you feel about that?

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It is technically a firearm
and treat every gun like it is ALWAYS LOADED
rule number one

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Beerme wrote:

autosurgeon wrote:

I doubt it as it was not a FIREARM.

Also it was not loaded....

Here is another question what if instead we used blue training guns for this type of situation?? How would you feel about that?

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It is technically a firearm
and treat every gun like it is ALWAYS LOADED
rule number one

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What caliber is this said Firearm?

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b) "Firearm" means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air. Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, BB's not exceeding .177 caliber.

So yes it is a firearm, and yes I would have gotten permission from the kids Parent or Guardian. As for the Private property if this part is true then it was legal.

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CrossPistols wrote:

b) "Firearm" means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air. Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, BB's not exceeding .177 caliber.

So yes it is a firearm, and yes I would have gotten permission from the kids Parent or Guardian. As for the Private property if this part is true then it was legal.

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As long as the parents or guardian of the child does not press charges for child endangerment...... then it would be legal

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b) "Firearm" means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air. Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, BB's not exceeding .177 caliber.

So yes it is a firearm, and yes I would have gotten permission from the kids Parent or Guardian. As for the Private property if this part is true then it was legal.

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CrossPistols wrote:

b) "Firearm" means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air. Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, BB's not exceeding .177 caliber.

So yes it is a firearm, and yes I would have gotten permission from the kids Parent or Guardian. As for the Private property if this part is true then it was legal.

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Not directed at you CPs just using your cite.

Minors can posses firearms under adult supervision. They can not possess a handgun unless they are at a recognized range receiving instruction on shooting it.

An air soft handgun is not considered a handgun or we would have to have a purchase permit to buy one and If I remember right I didn't have to get one when I bought mine.

How do you know we didn't have permission from his mom?

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My airsoft is CO2 powered and all I needed was cash in hand to buy it. Also bought a blank firing replica (orange tip of course) when i was 15 for a home movie, same deal just needed cash in hand.

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CrossPistols wrote: Not directed at you CPs just using your cite.

Minors can posses firearms under adult supervision. They can not possess a handgun unless they are at a recognized range receiving instruction on shooting it.

An air soft handgun is not considered a handgun or we would have to have a purchase permit to buy one and If I remember right I didn't have to get one when I bought mine.

How do you know we didn't have permission from his mom?

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steve wrote:

My airsoft is CO2 powered and all I needed was cash in hand to buy it. Also bought a blank firing replica (orange tip of course) when i was 15 for a home movie, same deal just needed cash in hand.

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then you purchased them illegally

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steve wrote:

My airsoft is CO2 powered and all I needed was cash in hand to buy it. Also bought a blank firing replica (orange tip of course) when i was 15 for a home movie, same deal just needed cash in hand.

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then you purchased them illegally

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Venator wrote:

CrossPistols wrote: Not directed at you CPs just using your cite.

Minors can posses firearms under adult supervision. They can not possess a handgun unless they are at a recognized range receiving instruction on shooting it.

An air soft handgun is not considered a handgun or we would have to have a purchase permit to buy one and If I remember right I didn't have to get one when I bought mine.

How do you know we didn't have permission from his mom?

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No one said that minors cannot posses firearms under adult supervision.

The way I read the law under MCL 28.421 sec. (e) a “Pistol” means a loaded or unloaded firearm that is 30 inches or less in length, or a loaded or unloaded firearm that by its construction and appearance conceals it as a firearm.

Also under MCL 28.421 sec. (b) a "Firearm" means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air. Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, BB's not exceeding .177 caliber.

So... even though you or anyone else are not required to get a purchase permit for an airsoft pistol, by law it is a firearm.

How do you know we didn't have permission from his mom?

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As far as this goes... this was discussed in the ponderosa thread as well as in teamspeak by members of OCDO and MOC who were in attendance when the carrying took place and no one has come forward with weither or not anyone asked permission....

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So he could posses it because it wasn't a handgun. The only point is was he under adult supervision. I say he was. BTW his mom is very cute.

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