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Could UOC be "political speech"

nicki

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The reality is some of us only UOC to make a political statement and it is obvious that many LEO's don't like it in areas where they have enacted Victim Disarmament(VD).

My view if flag burning is protected, perhaps this is something we can also claim.

Of course I would never burn old Glory, but the UN flag may be a different story.
 

ConditionThree

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nicki wrote:
The reality is some of us only UOC to make a political statement and it is obvious that many LEO's don't like it in areas where they have enacted Victim Disarmament(VD).
In California, UOC is primarily a political statement. Do police view it as speech?- I doubt that they do, but that isnt as relevant as how the court views it. Hopefully in a matter of weeks it will be viewed in a whole new light...
 

CA_Libertarian

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Could UOC be "political speech"?

Yes. It is.

In fact, one of the arguments in Nordyke was that holding a gun show was a form of protected speech. Not sure the 9th circuit will buy this on en banc review, but there are some interesting arguments and case references in the Nordyke playbook.

I'm fairly confident the 1A will be brought up in many 2A cases post-McDonald.
 

DEFENSOR

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nicki wrote:
My view if flag burning is protected, perhaps this is something we can also claim.

Of course I would never burn old Glory, but the UN flag may be a different story.
Yeah:celebrate
 
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