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Landpimp wrote:
I asked 2 PC and 2 TPD today, it(guns owned, registered)will not come up with your CPL, its a seperate check(as above post) and none of them could recall doing one on a normal stop.
I was going to have them run me thru the DOL......but we didnt have the time
Actually it
will come up in a single check. If YOU are run through the state ACCESS system (computer that interfaces with DOL and WACIC )
with the proper inquiry, it will return your CPL status AND any record of dealer purchased firearms in a single response.
It will not come up on a standard DOL driver's license/ID inquiry. The inquiry needs to be made of the Gun/CPL database. This is a separate check. HOWEVER, some agencies have programmed their CAD (Computer Aided Dispatch) systems to automatically generate the individual inquires when a person is run on a routine stop.
Basically it works like this, there is a Federal crime info system (NCIC), a state crime info system (WACIC), and DOL. When an officer pulls someone over or makes contact and gets ID, they "run" a name. The dispatcher enters the command in CAD, as an example for our system that command is
"QP N/SMITH, JOHN S D/112563" "QP"= Query Person, "N/"=Name, "D/"=Date of birth.
The CAD system formats the information provided and sends out two (or three?) messages through ACCESS (the State run "doorway" to the information systems). One message goes to WACIC (WA Crime Information Center) and returns WA state info such as warrants issued by WA courts, Restraining/Protective orders, etc. The other message goes to DOL and returns Driver License/ID info.
I am not entirely sure if there is a third message that goes to NCIC (National Crime Information Center), or if WACIC merely forwards to NCIC. The specifics don't really matter for the sake of this discussion. Suffice to say, the info goes to NCIC and it returns out of state Felony information.
Some agencies are programming their CAD to take the info and
ALSO do a third (or fourth?) inquiry, sending a SECOND message to DOL to check the Gun/CPL database. In this case, you will get the driver's license return, and in a separate response get the Gun/CPL info. The Gun/CPL stuff is combined on a single return.
The inquiry of the Gun/CPL database can be made by Name/DOB, in which case it will return CPL info and dealer purchased firearms. The Gun/CPL database can also be checked using a firearm serial number, in which case the purchaser information will return. I don't recall off the top of my head if CPL info comes up when just running a S/N. I will try to remember to run one and see tomorrow.
