SouthernBoy
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Burlyman78 wrote:
My carry guns reside in a holster which has neither a retention strap nor a Spera-like retaining device. They are retention in that the pistol must be pulled straight up and not at any angle in order to remove it. This is what I have trained with and this is what works for me.
We congratulate you and your fellow members for forming a group whose purpose is to advance and make known to the public at large and to our employees (police, etc.) that the carrying of a defensive sidearm is a normal and natural American behavior. But we are just a little concerned about some of the policies stated here. Tess and Nightmare spoke well of these concerns.
Carrying around Arlington County Police or Arlington residents should not be sugarcoated. This by no means is to say the OC'ers should get in their face (God knows, I would really hate to see that). But it IS our right and its time is here to let these folks know we are Virginians first and we value what is our birth right.
We do wish you well and hope your efforts are met with success and good exposure. Do let us know how things progress.
Burlyman78 wrote:
I would hope they are dangerous, otherwise what's the sense of carrying them for protection? I want mine to be as dangerous as possible.@Regular Joe -- I actually do think guns are dangerous and personally would not open carry a firearm in a holster *without* a retention device. But, to each his (or her) own.
AOC is not an ad-hoc OCDO "Open Carry Lunch." It's an open carry advocacy group. The mission of the group is to:
*Test how the law is enforced by the Arlington County police -- to ensure that the rights of Arlington gun owners are not being infringed.
*Provide a venue for members to practice exercising their rights -- to the fullest extent of the law.
*Educate the police about the rights of citizens during OC stops; and,
*Normalize the open carry of firearms by private citizens -- with aim of changing the view that only criminals and police carry guns
@Tess: One of the reasons for the basic firearm safety policy for AOC gatherings is to protect me from liability. AOC is a Meetup group, not an incorporated entity (as you point out). This exposes me to *more* liability as the organizer of the group, since incorporation *limits* liability.
I think all the consternation about "rules" and "groups" and "joining" are because AOC is obviously not what most people do on OCDO. It's more intentional and more assertive than the usual "we just get together as gun owners open carrying in the normal course of our lives whenever somebody feels like organizing a gathering" approach. I don't have a problem with that approach. I just don't want to take it. Hence, Arlington Open Carry.
So, if AOC isn't what you're looking for, no problem. You can keep doing what you've been doing, and more power to you. If you want to try something different, you can join AOC here (and it's a Meetup group, so yes, you have to "join" to get on the email list):
http://www.meetup.com/Arlington-Open-Carry/
My carry guns reside in a holster which has neither a retention strap nor a Spera-like retaining device. They are retention in that the pistol must be pulled straight up and not at any angle in order to remove it. This is what I have trained with and this is what works for me.
We congratulate you and your fellow members for forming a group whose purpose is to advance and make known to the public at large and to our employees (police, etc.) that the carrying of a defensive sidearm is a normal and natural American behavior. But we are just a little concerned about some of the policies stated here. Tess and Nightmare spoke well of these concerns.
Carrying around Arlington County Police or Arlington residents should not be sugarcoated. This by no means is to say the OC'ers should get in their face (God knows, I would really hate to see that). But it IS our right and its time is here to let these folks know we are Virginians first and we value what is our birth right.
We do wish you well and hope your efforts are met with success and good exposure. Do let us know how things progress.