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    Could someone explain the definition of "by the glass"? Obviously we know what a "glass" is, but what about a bottle made of glass, or is a "can" considered a glass? Does "by the glass" mean- tap beer or mixed drinks? Or what COULD be served in a glass?

    I had dinner at OX bar in Oxford and asked how much percentage of revenue was from food vs liquor and was told by the mgr that 60% was from alcohol sales. OK fine, but I didn't see 1 glass on the bar counter.

    BTW, forced open carried with CPL. No one said a word.

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    I would consider it to be "open container" and able to be consumed on the property.
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    I would also consider it to be any alcoholic drink that is consumed on the premises, no matter the container.
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    PDinDetroit wrote:
    I would consider it to be "open container" and able to be consumed on the property.
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    The phrase "by the glass" is a rare colloquialism found in the law. I'm sure a case could be made or broken on this phrase alone.

    But a smart person wouldn't end up in court at all, and just OC at a bar.

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    maybeifulucky wrote:
    Could someone explain the definition of "by the glass"? Obviously we know what a "glass" is, but what about a bottle made of glass, or is a "can" considered a glass? Does "by the glass" mean- tap beer or mixed drinks? Or what COULD be served in a glass?
    "Glass", as used in the Michigan alcohol control laws, isn't specifically defined anywhere, however Michigan lawseems torefer toany container used to serve a customer onpremises as a "glass" in MCL 436.2017:


    436.2017 Sterilization of glass; method and manner.
    Sec. 1017. Alcoholic liquor shall not be served to a person for consumption on the premises unless the glass in which the alcoholic liquor is to be served has been sterilized by a method and in a manner as prescribed by the commission.


    This law says the container you are served alcohol in must besterilized. This law calls the container "the glass". It seems Michigan law uses the term "glass" loosely to refer to any container used to serve alcohol to customers. By the way, "liquor" is also a term used loosely in the law, as it covers pretty much all forms of drinkable alcohol (including beer and wine), which is much more than what many people think ofwhen they use theword "liquor".


    Bottom line: glass = any container used to serve alcohol to customers on premises. So, yes, a bottle or can used to serve you on premisesis a "glass" which must meet sterility requirements.


    What is in the "glass" is "alcoholic liquor". Alcoholic liquor, fortunately, is defined:


    436.1105 Definitions; A, B.
    (3) "Alcoholic liquor" means any spirituous, vinous, malt, or fermented liquor, liquids and compounds, whether or not medicated, proprietary, patented, and by whatever name called, containing 1/2 of 1% or more of alcohol by volume which are fit for use for beverage purposes . . .


    Bottom line: alcoholic liquor = any drinkable alcohol, including tap beer or mixed drinks.
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    "...by the glass" is basically a weird way of saying "you drink alcohol there". That's opposed to a grocery store which sells alcohol but you cant drink it in the store. It wouldn't really matter if you had to drink it by the handfull or suck on a tap, it's all talking about drinking right there. So if the place makes more then 50% of income from people drinking there you must have a CPL and OC.

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