dirtykoala
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what do you guys think about having a form to request LEOs to read, fill out and sign prior to (e) checks? i think something like this could keep LEOs safe from law suits, and us safe from rights violations (beyond 12031[e])
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I, (officers name), representing (department name) will be performing a weapons inspection in accordance with P.C. 12031 (e). I assume all responsibility for the weapon in question while the weapon is in my possession. I understand that 12031(e) is merely an inspection of the firearm to ensure that the person in possession of the firearm is acting within the means of P.C. 12031. I further understand that any conversation or searches beyond P.C.12031 (e) are strictly voluntary unless reasonable articulable suspicion (RAS) has been established, detainment further than 12031(e) is not warranted. I understand that the legal possession of a firearm, including but not limited to "open carry" does not establish RAS. I understand that because "open carry" does not establish RAS, identification, while I can request it, does not have to be provided to me.
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what do you guys think about having a form to request LEOs to read, fill out and sign prior to (e) checks? i think something like this could keep LEOs safe from law suits, and us safe from rights violations (beyond 12031[e])
example:
I, (officers name), representing (department name) will be performing a weapons inspection in accordance with P.C. 12031 (e). I assume all responsibility for the weapon in question while the weapon is in my possession. I understand that 12031(e) is merely an inspection of the firearm to ensure that the person in possession of the firearm is acting within the means of P.C. 12031. I further understand that any conversation or searches beyond P.C.12031 (e) are strictly voluntary unless reasonable articulable suspicion (RAS) has been established, detainment further than 12031(e) is not warranted. I understand that the legal possession of a firearm, including but not limited to "open carry" does not establish RAS. I understand that because "open carry" does not establish RAS, identification, while I can request it, does not have to be provided to me.
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