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    Oops..

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    GASP!! And no one died!?!? :what:

    You go so lucky your pistol didnt fly out of its holster on its own and shoot everyone nearby!



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    Thank goodness the cops didn't see you do that. They would have ticketed you, having the moral high ground of never making mistakes themselves. sarcasm/off

    I see an increasing tendency to call everything one might do a crime, never a mistake. The aim of tyrants is to make everyone a criminal, except themselves of course, and thereby capture the moral high ground. Except that in the world of newspeak, where freedom is slavery, what does moral high ground mean?

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    "I got away with it, so I felt compelled to rush home and confess to two federal crimes in a public forum!" :P

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    antispam540 wrote:
    "I got away with it, so I felt compelled to rush home and confess to two federal crimes in a public forum!" :P
    Well unless he was actually caught in the act.. he could come on here and say he just sold 10 kilos of cocaine today. LOL

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    antispam540 wrote:
    "I got away with it, so I felt compelled to rush home and confess to two federal crimes in a public forum!" :P
    Dont know why the public cant carry in a Post Office, Its the Postal workers that go postal.
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    Seeing as this website is monitered by law enforcement, it's my guess this is a late April fools joke.

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    LT ... you must ensure everyone knows the power of that Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie.

    See http://zapatopi.net/afdb/.. For those that may need to construct one.

    Tony, I am glad your OK. Especially if you were not deploying AFDB, they could have figured you out easily.

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    Tony Santiago wrote:
    i had completely forgotten about these buildings being property of the u.s.. i had to drop off some packages at the post, and then re file for a replacement ss card.

    i was CCing the entire time, and then later on i realized it was a violation of a us law..

    oops
    Since you were carrying for a lawful purpose, are you really in violation?

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    Aaah, that's the beauty of laws that say, in effect, yes you can but on the other hand, no you can't. This comes about because there are so many laws that nobody can keep track of them, let alone the inherent contradictions between them.

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    Batousaii wrote:
    LT ... you must ensure everyone knows the power of that Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie.

    See http://zapatopi.net/afdb/.. For those that may need to construct one.

    Tony, I am glad your OK. Especially if you were not deploying AFDB, they could have figured you out easily.

    lol Bat

    Yes, but there is evidence to refute the AFDB effectiveness...http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

    "Conclusion: The helmets amplify frequency bands that coincide with those allocated to the US government between 1.2 Ghz and 1.4 Ghz. According to the FCC, These bands are supposedly reserved for ''radio location'' (ie, GPS), and other communications with satellites (see, for example, [3]). The 2.6 Ghz band coincides with mobile phone technology. Though not affiliated by government, these bands are at the hands of multinational corporations. It requires no stretch of the imagination to conclude that the current helmet craze is likely to have been propagated by the Government, possibly with the involvement of the FCC. We hope this report will encourage the paranoid community to develop improved helmet designs to avoid falling prey to these shortcomings."

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    correct you cant carry in the PO, but a most(buildings) are not owned but the Gov, they are leased from someone, USPS owns very few of the of the local PO. If I recall(and might bewrong)PO workers are not federal workers, they are contract workers



    regardless.....yeah packing at the PO is a no no

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    Landpimp wrote:
    PO workers are not federal workers, they are contract workers
    I think it varies by position. I've seen ads hiring for U.S. Postal workers offering Federal Benefits.

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    Landpimp wrote:
    correct you cant carry in the PO, but a most(buildings) are not owned but the Gov, they are leased from someone, USPS owns very few of the of the local PO. If I recall(and might bewrong)PO workers are not federal workers, they are contract workers



    regardless.....yeah packing at the PO is a no no
    Way I read it, having a firearm in your car in the parking lot while you go in unarmed is a no no.
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    amzbrady wrote:
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    correct you cant carry in the PO, but a most(buildings) are not owned but the Gov, they are leased from someone, USPS owns very few of the of the local PO. If I recall(and might bewrong)PO workers are not federal workers, they are contract workers



    regardless.....yeah packing at the PO is a no no
    Way I read it, having a firearm in your car in the parking lot while you go in unarmed is a no no.
    So what choices does that leave? Park across the street?

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    yep.
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
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    NavyLT wrote:
    kwikrnu wrote:
    Seeing as this website is monitered by law enforcement, it's my guess this is a late April fools joke.


    They are coming for you, Tony.... don't answer that knock at the door! :what:
    OMG, LMFAO... Sgt Schultz has been abducted and mind melted with the cat in the hat.
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
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    not sure, but my local PO is leased as the parking lot is also leased and shared with many other business's, so I think in my case the lot is no issue. I can ask the Post Master when I see him next but cant recall anyone ever being arrested for packing in the PO, I am sure someone has just cant think of any instance



    Wonder why its not likethe other off limits places that are required to secure you gun(like say going to LESA) while they dont, they if you call ahead will have someone to watch your gun, its the LAW. Of course I dont feel the need to waste on officers time, so I just leave em in the car



    amzbrady wrote:
    Landpimp wrote:
    correct you cant carry in the PO, but a most(buildings) are not owned but the Gov, they are leased from someone, USPS owns very few of the of the local PO. If I recall(and might bewrong)PO workers are not federal workers, they are contract workers



    regardless.....yeah packing at the PO is a no no
    Way I read it, having a firearm in your car in the parking lot while you go in unarmed is a no no.

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    Tony Santiago wrote:
    i had completely forgotten about these buildings being property of the u.s.. i had to drop off some packages at the post, and then re file for a replacement ss card.

    i was CCing the entire time, and then later on i realized it was a violation of a us law..

    oops
    Will this be your excuse when you try and enter a court or airport security area as well, I cannot see how one can forget they are carrying and entering such a well know off limits areas and claim it to be by accident or oh I forgot.

    If it is so easy for you to forget then what is the next thing you will forget? Exercising our right to Bear Arms come with a great responsibility and not to be taken lightly.
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    Interesting thought...

    Carried concealed for more than a decade and had read the RCW on my own. I have family (father), friends (cops), and others that carry. I was aware of bars, schools (although there is ambiguity in the school clause), jails, etc...

    Iand my family and friends really had never had a conversation about the Post Office being off limits as a federal building until I found ocdo. Most other federal buildings you go to have a security checkpoint and/or are posted as no firearms pretty clearly. And my visits, or anyone else for that matter, would be fairly limited. I think I can remember once of visiting a federal building in downtown Portland and I left it in the car in a public parking lot.

    I would venture to guess that if you asked 100 regular concealed carry folks who don't visit and web forum like ocdo that 95 of them would have no clue that you can't carry in a post office and 99 of that same hundred would have no clue that you can't even leave it in your vehicle when you do business.

    There is no security checkpoint, at my nearest post office there is no sign stating carrying is illegal. There is a sign stating using a firearm in the commision of a crime at the PO has penalties, etc. In reality, in my opinion there is no enforcement of this law.

    Now in reality I pay most of my bills online and have very little reason to visit the post office. I can think back to the past 5 years or so and perhaps I visit once a year. Most of my business activities tend to go through UPS or Fedex. I am sure there are some who use the PO quite often and need to consider there post offfice vistits and firearm possesion closer.

    Just some thoughts from a regular guy's point of view....

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    BigDave wrote:
    Tony Santiago wrote:
    i had completely forgotten about these buildings being property of the u.s.. i had to drop off some packages at the post, and then re file for a replacement ss card.

    i was CCing the entire time, and then later on i realized it was a violation of a us law..

    oops
    Will this be your excuse when you try and enter a court or airport security area as well, I cannot see how one can forget they are carrying and entering such a well know off limits areas and claim it to be by accident or oh I forgot.

    If it is so easy for you to forget then what is the next thing you will forget? Exercising our right to Bear Arms come with a great responsibility and not to be taken lightly.
    Two places with a security check and metal detector.

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    Public forum ... using your name as your on-line ID .... admitting to a federal offense.




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    Bersa.380 wrote:
    Public forum ... using your name as your on-line ID .... admitting to a federal offense.



    Doesn't hold much ground for anything. You think a prosecutor is going to come browse this, read the post, and find a man by his name, and prosecute him based off of that? LOL

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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    Bersa.380 wrote:
    Public forum ... using your name as your on-line ID .... admitting to a federal offense.



    Doesn't hold much ground for anything. You think a prosecutor is going to come browse this, read the post, and find a man by his name, and prosecute him based off of that? LOL
    The offense would have to be committed in the presence of a LEO.
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