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    Well, I lost another grocery store today, I got brave and asked a manager for permission to OC there, and he gave me some BS about a "family environment", and so now I need a place to buy my food. Any suggestions?



    It was the Krogers store on Sashabaw Rd.

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    stainless1911 wrote:
    Well, I lost another grocery store today, I got brave and asked a manager for permission to OC there, and he gave me some BS about a "family environment", and so now I need a place to buy my food. Any suggestions?



    It was the Krogers store on Sashabaw Rd.
    It's understandable in your situation why you asked permission, however, it's also another perfectly good example of why you don't ask.

    What store was it you mentioned a while back ago that you would frequent that was supposed to be OC friendly and, IIRC, the manager was a friend of yours.

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    idk how far it is from you...but there is a OC friendly business in the corunna/owosso area i believe.


    link for it!(why is it not on the friendly business list?)

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/36259.html
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    ^^ not sure what I was supposed to do with that.



    Im in northern Oakland County. @ dixie hwy and I-75

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    don't most grocery stores sell alcohol?

    Isn't oc prohibited at any place licensed by the liquor control act without a cpl?

    I hate to see ya end up back in court.
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    unless he gets permission which is why he's asking...

    I wonder if he informs who he's asking that he got his CPL yanked.

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    dougwg wrote:
    unless he gets permission which is why he's asking...

    I wonder if he informs who he's asking that he got his CPL yanked.
    I dunno, but I sure wouldn't, if it was me. I thought Meijers was an OC friendly place, or did that change?
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    Big Gay Al wrote:
    dougwg wrote:
    unless he gets permission which is why he's asking...

    I wonder if he informs who he's asking that he got his CPL yanked.
    I dunno, but I sure wouldn't, if it was me. I thought Meijers was an OC friendly place, or did that change?
    alcohol...
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    when do you get yer cpl back?
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    lil_freak_66 wrote:
    Big Gay Al wrote:
    dougwg wrote:
    unless he gets permission which is why he's asking...

    I wonder if he informs who he's asking that he got his CPL yanked.
    I dunno, but I sure wouldn't, if it was me. I thought Meijers was an OC friendly place, or did that change?
    alcohol...
    Yes, but if it's OC friendly, doesn't that indicate you'd have permission to OC there, from the management?
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    Big Gay Al wrote:
    lil_freak_66 wrote:
    Big Gay Al wrote:
    dougwg wrote:
    unless he gets permission which is why he's asking...

    I wonder if he informs who he's asking that he got his CPL yanked.
    I dunno, but I sure wouldn't, if it was me.Â* I thought Meijers was an OC friendly place, or did that change?
    alcohol...
    Yes, but if it's OC friendly, doesn't that indicate you'd have permission to OC there, from the management?Â*
    Just because they're not kicking you out, doesn't mean they're specifically giving you permission.

    Just look at Starbucks.

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    Don't 'ask permission' to do something that is perfectly legal. That gives them an opportunity to say no. It's much easier to say no over the phone and 'prevent' someone from OCing than it is to approach them during the situation and ask. If they approach you and say it, then you leave, (and on the way out, they can put ALL of your groceries away that are in your cart) but personally, this is why I'd never ask permission, only because as a gun owner who is not breaking the law, I should never have to ask permission.


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    I get my CPL back on July 26.

    The problem is indeed with the sale of alcohol. And I dont even drink.

    The trouble is, that I have to ask permission, and either get it in writing, or get it on my digital voice recorder, and if I ask, of course, people will say no. Hiding behind the "children" excuse.



    ^ beleive me, without a CPL, you better get permission first. In writing if possible.


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    since walmart has a policy to follow state law,couldnt you call corporate,or stop ina store unarmedand ask them to give you permission since the policy is to follow state law,and state law allows them to give permission?
    not a lawyer, dont take anything i say as legal advice.


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    As has been stated repeatedly, walmart's latest corp. policy is to leave it up to each store manager. Therefore you need to contact the manager of each store you intend to frequent and get permission from them. Yes, preferably in writing just to CYA.

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    stainless1911 wrote:
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    ^ beleive me, without a CPL, you better get permission first. In writing if possible.
    :?:?:?:?:?:what:

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    im not possitive about this but i dont belive ALDI sells booze so if you can find on near you it maybe an option

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    http://www2.dleg.state.mi.us/llist/

    This is a good way to determine who does or does not have a liqueur license.
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    Thanks Auto, awesome link. Here is a fine example of what I was explaining to a friend of mine.

    Little Caesar's in Owosso....OC w/o CPL? NO!
    They have a current/valid liquor license!!!!

    Who would have ever guessed? I wouldn't have, they don't sell liquor.

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    Yep that is why I posted the link! I find it rather interesting that certain places have a license but do not sell booze??

    Makes you wonder why they have it.
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    Exactly, that's what people are curious about. Why have a license and not sell liquor. The best I could explain it was; it may be a corporate decision for liquor license and have all locations covered whether they sell alcohol or not. Or if the decision is made to sell it later they already have a license for it.
    So I tell them to check for a current/valid liquor license before carrying there w/o a cpl. Just because they don't sell alcohol, doesn't mean they don't have a license!
    CYA...it's cheaper than a lawyer!

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    and it is easy to check!
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    WARCHILD wrote:
    Exactly, that's what people are curious about. Why have a license and not sell liquor. The best I could explain it was; it may be a corporate decision for liquor license and have all locations covered whether they sell alcohol or not. Or if the decision is made to sell it later they already have a license for it.
    So I tell them to check for a current/valid liquor license before carrying there w/o a cpl. Just because they don't sell alcohol, doesn't mean they don't have a license!
    CYA...it's cheaper than a lawyer!
    Can a person without a CPL have a gun in the parking lot of a place licensed to sell alcohol?

    I couldn't find that on your reference chart.

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    CV67PAT wrote:
    WARCHILD wrote:
    Exactly, that's what people are curious about. Why have a license and not sell liquor. The best I could explain it was; it may be a corporate decision for liquor license and have all locations covered whether they sell alcohol or not. Or if the decision is made to sell it later they already have a license for it.
    So I tell them to check for a current/valid liquor license before carrying there w/o a cpl. Just because they don't sell alcohol, doesn't mean they don't have a license!
    CYA...it's cheaper than a lawyer!
    Can a person without a CPL have a gun in the parking lot of a place licensed to sell alcohol?

    I couldn't find that on your reference chart.
    Nowhere on the premises, unless you have a CPL or permission.

    Premises includes parking areas in this statute.

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