WORKING TO RESTORE FIREARMS RIGHTS

I'm sure we're all guilty of tax evasion, in some form.

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I personally feel pretty strongly about felons not being able to own firearms, I have known quite a few felons in my time; I still have quite a few friends who are "rehabilitated"

they are currently commuting just as many crimes as they did before they went to prison for whatever they did. they are just better at not being caught.

the way i see it, if you prove to society that you can commit a felony, when you get out, I'll hang out, hug out, hire, work with, whatever, but as for a firearm, you already proved your willingness to commit a crime, I'd prefer not to make your repeat offense any deadlier, thanks.

this includes drunk driving felonies.

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kyleplusitunes wrote:

I don't know of any victim-less felonies.

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Tax Evasion.
Drug possession (say, if you are growing a single plant of cannabis in your basement).
Consensual sex - sometimes called "Statutory Rape."
Prostitution/Solicitation
Running a gambling house
Consensual Sodomy (Both Oral and Anal intercourse are illegal in MI)
Euthanasia (mercy killing of a terminally ill person - with consent)

I'm sure there are more.

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kyleplusitunes wrote:

I personally feel pretty strongly about felons not being able to own firearms, I have known quite a few felons in my time; I still have quite a few friends who are "rehabilitated"

they are currently commuting just as many crimes as they did before they went to prison for whatever they did. they are just better at not being caught.

this includes drunk driving felonies.

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If you know these "friends" are still committing crimes, I sure hope you are turning them in. 

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kyleplusitunes wrote:

I don't know of any victim-less felonies.

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Tax Evasion.
Drug possession (say, if you are growing a single plant of cannabis in your basement).
Consensual sex - sometimes called "Statutory Rape."
Prostitution/Solicitation
Running a gambling house
Consensual Sodomy (Both Oral and Anal intercourse are illegal in MI)
Euthanasia (mercy killing of a terminally ill person - with consent)

I'm sure there are more.

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I wouldnt mind taxes so much, if they were fair. i.e. "flat taxes". And if an item were only taxed once, and if I could choose to have my personal taxes not go to fund things I am morally opposed to, and if I got my moneys worth out of my country, i.e. quality roads, schools, leadership, etc. And there were no "sin taxes", (seperation f church and state plz). Oh, maybe if the IRS wasnt threatening me to get their money, what do we call non govenment employees who do this? Ih thats right, we call them felons.

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first of welcome to mgo, it was my understanding that that if the state said you can get your gun rights back the feds went along with it?

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And if you're a single man and have an affair with a married woman YOUbecome the adulterer and can be convicted of a felony and lose your right to own a firearm.

Also if you get a divorce and then, for whatever reason, you patch it up with your ex and are cohabitating you are guilty of the felony crime ofadultery and will lose your ability to own a firearm.

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Hello all, here is my unique situation, please use it for perspective, reservation of judgement, etc. I am going to present this in a lineal format, I want you to take note of how you feel about me when you start reading vs the end.

I was raised by the state, I have no parents

I am a convicted Felon.

I have comitted three Felonys (that I was caught for) and a misdemeanor

These crimes consist of Larceny, Embezzlement, Carrying of concealed weapon, and assault and battery.

ask yourself how you like me now?

I never did any jail time.

the ccw was for a knife in my car, the embezzlement for playing with a couple of two-way radios that belonged to my employer, the larceny was for taking fire extinguishers out of a dumpster, and the A+B was for slamming a door behind me and I didnt know anyone was there.

I was 18 years old and less when all this occured.

how about now?

today I am 30 years old, i am happily married with two beautiful children.

I have three college degrees, I am currently a state certified firefighter and licensed paramedic.

I am continuing my medical education currently applying to Med Schools.

I havent so much as bent a law since I was 18.

so how do you like me now?



I believe there should atleast be an avenue for folks like myself. I feel the same way most of you do, murder, rape, pediphilia, etc. should not be treated lightly but for those of you that state "a convicted felon should not...." I ask you what is a convicted felon?

Charles Manson is a Felon and so am I

I learned while I was young... more or less I reluctantly say that the system worked for me, I did wrong, was punished, and learned.

I dont want to be punished anymore, I want to serve my community (I am) and just be "normal"

I am found in this site because I feel I should have the same right to protect my 5 year old little girl, 7 year old son, and wife EXACTLY the same as others

others who the only difference is they never got caught, were let off, or their parents handled it

oh yeah, I said it EVERYONE is a criminal, just some actually have a record of it, there isnt a person or even a cop on the street that didnt (or some still do) smoke marijuana and thereby be in possesion of a controlled substance, or drink a little too much and drive, or slap their kid or wife, or take something that didnt belong to them

you dont have to admit it to me but think to yourself what all you didnt get caught for, or that time yourparents whooped your tailinstead of a judge and jail.

thanks for your time

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autosurgeon wrote:

Bad check maybe... violent never gonna happen!

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Time served is time served.

I don't think felons should lose their right to vote.

The second amendment is singled out as the only right in the bill of rights that one loses for committing a felony.

Why don't we take away their right to a speedy trial, or their right against cruel and unusual punishment? These rights are in the same category as the right to keep & bear, and held with the same regard.

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good point, I'm all for manditory life sentances on all felons. I like the way you think.

I grew up with a kid, in and out of county jail from the time he was 18 to 20 or so, at 20 he commited his first real violent crime, broke into some families house while they were asleep, the father woke up to go the bathroom while he was in the house, he beat him within inches of his life, he did 3 of 15 for this. he got out, was out for a while, commited armed robbery and attempted murder, beat the guy within inches of his life again.

this guy is now on parole at 29. I think we should work to restore his firearm rights because of time served, he's better right? wrong.

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So you work for a fire department that hires felons?

and yeah, and 18 year old who writes bad checks should be in the joint forever, I'm out here working 60 hours a week to keep my standard of living, if an 18 year old didn't have parents that taught them the difference between right and wrong.

okay, maybe not life, but at least capital punishment. so we don't have to pay to keep them incarcerated.

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