Streetbikerr6
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I apologize if this takes bandwidth although I think this merits discussion here.
A lot of the comments in youtube are of people saying this was entirely murder..etc etc. Although I have to disagree to a certain extent.
Lets put this in context. This was in Baghdad which was a heavy combat zone at the time. Apaches are called in by ground troops. They don't just fly around wasting fuel looking for trouble. There were reports of AK-47 fire so this apache was called in to protect our ground troops nearby.
Now if one were to watch this video with NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE of the 2 cameramen than I think everyone could easily assume every one of those individuals had weapons instead of the 2 with cameras.
At 3:40 there are 4 men, one looks to have an AK-47 and another looks to have an RPG (possible another camera and a tripod). These 4 men are different from the 2 confirmed cameramen seen 10 seconds prior walking in front.
At 4:10 there is an individual peeking around a corner with what looks to be a rifle/rpg and then points it at the apache at the last second (possibly a camera taking a picure).
The rules of engagement are met, these men are in a combat zone with weapons, they are cleared to fire which they do so. Nothing out of the ordinary in my view, it is sad 2 cameramen are caught in the cross fire although this is what they expect when walking with insurgents. They know the U.S. will still fire on a group of 50 insurgents if there is 1 unarmed cameraman in the group. They know their risk walking with insurgents in a combat zone. These reporters are brave.
However, the Rules of Engagement do not apply to the second shooting on the van in my view. No weapons were in view. This was definitely a type 2 ROE error in my view. Very sad and shameful. Although I am tired of liberals thinking the first shooting was unjust. They have a biased view sitting in their nice comfy homes eating snicker-doodles having pre-knowledge of 2 men holding cameras which look like guns. It is disgusting to hear them slander the military. War is not pretty. Freedom is not free. There will always be casualties. I have spoken with my marine friends and they share the same view.
What are your thoughts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d3SHumK2UY
I apologize if this takes bandwidth although I think this merits discussion here.
A lot of the comments in youtube are of people saying this was entirely murder..etc etc. Although I have to disagree to a certain extent.
Lets put this in context. This was in Baghdad which was a heavy combat zone at the time. Apaches are called in by ground troops. They don't just fly around wasting fuel looking for trouble. There were reports of AK-47 fire so this apache was called in to protect our ground troops nearby.
Now if one were to watch this video with NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE of the 2 cameramen than I think everyone could easily assume every one of those individuals had weapons instead of the 2 with cameras.
At 3:40 there are 4 men, one looks to have an AK-47 and another looks to have an RPG (possible another camera and a tripod). These 4 men are different from the 2 confirmed cameramen seen 10 seconds prior walking in front.
At 4:10 there is an individual peeking around a corner with what looks to be a rifle/rpg and then points it at the apache at the last second (possibly a camera taking a picure).
The rules of engagement are met, these men are in a combat zone with weapons, they are cleared to fire which they do so. Nothing out of the ordinary in my view, it is sad 2 cameramen are caught in the cross fire although this is what they expect when walking with insurgents. They know the U.S. will still fire on a group of 50 insurgents if there is 1 unarmed cameraman in the group. They know their risk walking with insurgents in a combat zone. These reporters are brave.
However, the Rules of Engagement do not apply to the second shooting on the van in my view. No weapons were in view. This was definitely a type 2 ROE error in my view. Very sad and shameful. Although I am tired of liberals thinking the first shooting was unjust. They have a biased view sitting in their nice comfy homes eating snicker-doodles having pre-knowledge of 2 men holding cameras which look like guns. It is disgusting to hear them slander the military. War is not pretty. Freedom is not free. There will always be casualties. I have spoken with my marine friends and they share the same view.
What are your thoughts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d3SHumK2UY
