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    18. Starbucks can't stay out of gun debate, NYT says
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    I would also remind the press that Virginia gun owners have honored Starbucks' request to not be in the middle of a gun debate. It's the Brady's that have, as usual, been disrespectful towards Starbucks.

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    Starbucks can't stay out of gun debate, NYT says

    Posted by Melissa Allison

    "Starbucks' combination of a somewhat-pious corporate persona and its
    massive growth has made it an apparently irresistible jumping-off
    point for all kinds of debates and meditations," Rob Walker wrote in a
    New York Times Sunday magazine item on Starbucks and the gun debate.

    In what appears to be a gratuitous swipe, the piece says that when
    sociologist Ray Oldenburg coined the term "third place," that place
    between work and home that Starbucks wants to be, "It seems fair to
    say that Starbucks is not what he had in mind." (Maybe the Times is
    upset that Starbucks is now carrying The Wall Street Journal in 450
    New York stores?)

    He also points out that civil rights protests often focused on
    restaurants and hotels and says, "Starbucks, in more ways than one, is
    shorthand for 'everywhere.'" That makes it a target for both sides in
    the gun debate, he wrote.

    If that's true, I wonder why open carry advocates hung out first at
    Peet's Coffee? OpenCarry.org co-founder Mike Stollenwerk of Virginia
    said they switched to Starbucks only after Peet's banned their openly
    carried guns.


    In fresher political news, French president Nicolas Sarkozy insisted
    that "his choice of espresso machine be provided" at a visit to
    Columbia University yesterday, the New York Post reports.
    Unfortunately, it does not report which machine that is.


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    I don't know if its what Mike meant, but the way the article is written it makes it seem as though we all only started going to Starbucks after Peets banned OC. I assume what he was actually saying is that OCers in California switched, because of course, in Virginia, wtf is Peets Coffee? I guess its like one of those In and Outs or Carls Jr. west coast deals :P

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    IMHO, Peets is a Starbucks wanna-be that is thrilled to take advantage of any opportunity to be compared in any light, good or bad, or for that matter to even be mentioned in the same context as Starbucks.

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    I've always gone to SB. Got a Gold card. Never been hassled.



    Grande, vanilla latte, skim milk, no foam.

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    Carribou has better coffee (IMO) and is cheaper and has free WIFI. I go there often. But because I'm a caffeine feign I also make time for Starbucks. Its just more fun to OC to.

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    I like 7-11 for regular ol' coffee.

    I go to Starbucks rarely. Most of the time I wait until Thanksgiving/Halloween and get their pumpkin spice latte. I've never had a problem in any Starbucks (or 7-11). In all honesty, since all this Starbucks hubbub started I don't think I've been in one.

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    I have OC'ed to starbucks on occasion, including this past weekend in VA Beach. Never had any problem, even this last time when the girl behind the counter had a very "sunshine and lollipops/hippie" look to her.

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    Curtis wrote:
    I like 7-11 for regular ol' coffee.

    I go to Starbucks rarely. Most of the time I wait until Thanksgiving/Halloween and get their pumpkin spice latte. I've never had a problem in any Starbucks (or 7-11). In all honesty, since all this Starbucks hubbub started I don't think I've been in one.
    Its always been an non-issue for me. The only comment I've ever received from an employee was a guy who told me not to shoot him, but he was simply trying to get a laugh.

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    Curtis wrote:
    I like 7-11 for regular ol' coffee.

    +1 :celebrate

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    I frequent both the Starbucks in Ashland and in Mechanicsville and have never had any problems. In Ashland I get the occasional :shock:from the out of towners coming off of I-95, but never any comments.

    Venti double shot caramel latte for me. Iced coffee for the kid and one of those frappachino thingys for the wife. I don't get all that crappachino stuff but she digs it. However sometimes a guy just wants a regular cup of coffee, that i can get 7-11 or east coast. My 2 cents.

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