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    I am curious what Open Carry Tactics (OCT) you may employ when out and about in the real world?

    I know that I employ a few that I have picked up over the years from my CC days as well. No I don't consider them 'paranoid' but just simple common sense.

    I will start:

    1) When I enter a building (store, movie theater, home, etc) I quickly look around for any trouble spots or people. I also look for the emergency exits in case of well emergency (fire, power outage, etc). I have taught my daughters this as well and I can blindfold them and they can point to the exits.

    2) When I sit in a restaurant I always sit facing the door so I can see any trouble entering the building. I also always sit on the aisle seat to enable quicker access to my firearm and any trouble that may enter.

    3) When in line at a 'Starbucks' or similar establishment I stand in line facing the door at an angle and generally try to do so weak side so that if there was someone who entered who was trouble they may not notice me right away. I generally stand weak side towards others and the bulk of activity in a public setting to limit access to my firearm.

    note: I do carry in a thumb break leather Blackhawk holster, I dress and look conservative






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    Are you a fan of gecko45?

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    Curtis wrote:
    Are you a fan of gecko45?

    http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

    Nope...best you got is a back handed insult?

    I wear dockers, a shirt with a collar...no extra gear. Not even a pocket knife!

    Funny, we tell women to look under their cars when they get in them at night but when us OCers are asked a real question all you get is someone TRYING to be funny. I will tell you this that there are plenty of LEO and regular citizens with a real question and strong argument concerning 'training.' I have consistently said that as long as it is not required by the government. (...shall not be infringed) However, the founders on many occasions defined what 'A well regulated....' meant. It means to practice and be proficient with your firearm. I think you would be amiss to not consider taking simple steps to ensure your safety, whether armed or not. The 3 items I listed above require no extra time or unusual steps to be safe.
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    Given what you indicated about yourself in your original post I should have foreseen that you would take offense to a light-hearted joke. It wasn't meant as an insult, sorry that you saw it as one.

    As for my ~*~*~*~OPEN CARRY TACTICS (OCT)~*~*~*~ : I go about my life as I normally would. I act no different. I remain situationally aware.

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    Curtis wrote:
    Given what you indicated about yourself in your original post I should have foreseen that you would take offense to a light-hearted joke. It wasn't meant as an insult, sorry that you saw it as one.

    As for my ~*~*~*~OPEN CARRY TACTICS (OCT)~*~*~*~ : I go about my life as I normally would. I act no different. I remain situationally aware.
    LOL, I didn't (see smily face above) just didn't want anyone else to not get it either. Correct I go about my life as I normally would, but those 3 things I have generally done for the 10+ years I CC'd. Those 3 things fall into the situationally aware box.
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    Curtis wrote:
    Are you a fan of gecko45?

    http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

    hahaha, wow. best read i have seen in a while....

    I especially liked the bit how specops did a backflip over a concession counter, while firing 5 rounds at a pinball machine. That just made my day, ahahahaha
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    I just couldn't read past:
    Fortunately, wounding fire to suppress teenage kleptomaniacs is relatively easy, they all run in straight lines, and a hit in the knee will be relatively simple from the second floor
    If I was in a mall and a teenager got shot in the knee for shoplifting...:what:
    I can't even imagine...
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    Well, I figure someone ought to get this back on topic.

    The best 'tactic' I can think of is to project an air of confidence no matter the situation. I have often heard, and often found to be true, that as long as you look like you belong, you won't be questioned.

    I would imagine that this would also apply to carrying firearms. If it looks natural, and you look confident (not arrogant), then the average person will just assume you, and you gun, belong.
    There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away, mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting. I've done the math enough to know the dangers of our second guessing. Doomed to crumble, unless we grow and strengthen our communication. -Tool, "Schism"

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    mcdonalk wrote:
    Well, I figure someone ought to get this back on topic.

    The best 'tactic' I can think of is to project an air of confidence no matter the situation. I have often heard, and often found to be true, that as long as you look like you belong, you won't be questioned.

    I would imagine that this would also apply to carrying firearms. If it looks natural, and you look confident (not arrogant), then the average person will just assume you, and you gun, belong.
    Yeah. This.

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    Open carrying has also made me even more aware of my surroundings. I always sit with a wall behind me and with a clear view of the doors and the rest of the room. Since I open carry, I carry in a locking holster - such as the Blackhawk Serpa Level two.

    When I'm standing in a line, I clasp my hands behind my back. This puts my right arm against my pistol and holster. I'm on high alert when someone is behind me.

    I also carry pepper spray and a small taser.

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    That's good to know. I stand like that in line anyway (I got pickpocketed once, and it gives me a 'natural' way to keep an 'eye' on my wallet) so that won't have to change.
    There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away, mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting. I've done the math enough to know the dangers of our second guessing. Doomed to crumble, unless we grow and strengthen our communication. -Tool, "Schism"

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    eye95 wrote:
    mcdonalk wrote:
    Well, I figure someone ought to get this back on topic.

    The best 'tactic' I can think of is to project an air of confidence no matter the situation. I have often heard, and often found to be true, that as long as you look like you belong, you won't be questioned.

    I would imagine that this would also apply to carrying firearms. If it looks natural, and you look confident (not arrogant), then the average person will just assume you, and you gun, belong.
    Yeah. This.
    I simply act as though I am not armed. I do though keep my sense of situational awareness on "high alert", you know keep the eyes in the back of my head open.

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    OCinColorado wrote:
    eye95 wrote:
    mcdonalk wrote:
    Well, I figure someone ought to get this back on topic.

    The best 'tactic' I can think of is to project an air of confidence no matter the situation. I have often heard, and often found to be true, that as long as you look like you belong, you won't be questioned.

    I would imagine that this would also apply to carrying firearms. If it looks natural, and you look confident (not arrogant), then the average person will just assume you, and you gun, belong.
    Yeah. This.
    I simply act as though I am not armed. I do though keep my sense of situational awareness on "high alert", you know keep the eyes in the back of my head open.
    I also keep a low profile, but I do keep a high situational awarenessarmed and a higher situational awareness when I have to be unarmed.


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    The Gecko story was amazing..Wowwww, can he possibly be any more insane??

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    First time I've ever read that. That is some of the funniest stuff I think I've ever read

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    I have never heard of such a violent mall nor have I ever heard of a mall employing an entire army of soldiers lol

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    I go about my day as if nothing is going to happen but yet expecting something to happen.

    Like being on call for an emergency.
    Don't confuse me with the facts, I have my emotions!

    I guess that's the difference between no crime and "stopping" a crime in progress. I prefer no crime.

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    I keep my SA on at all times when outside the house. Hopefully nothing will happen, but if it does, I have a plan.
    "Most people respect the badge. Everybody... respects the gun."

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    open4years wrote:
    When I'm standing in a line, I clasp my hands behind my back. This puts my right arm against my pistol and holster. I'm on high alert when someone is behind me.
    I used to have a tendency to clasp my hands together in my lap when sitting sometimes. I had to consciously break that habit because it left my hands a bit numb and stiff after a bit. I suspect you would have the same problem with this practice. An even greater problem, I suspect, is the fact that such a posture would not look anywhere "normal" to most people and might actually be alarming.

    In any case, I want my hands free to respond immediately to any emergency. Having them clasped behind my back would be like having on handcuffs! No thanks.
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    Get used to watching peoples hands, instead of their eyes. They say its the looks that kill. They don't. Looks dont kill, they can't. Hands do, and the tools used to kill are controlled by the hands. Watch the hands.

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    Yes, watch hands and body movements. Look for aggression or furtive movement. As far as what to do with YOUR hands, look at the Secret Service...their hands are seemingly relaxed, but always at the ready. They've even been dubbed "Secret Service Hands" by some.

    Eyeballs never killed anybody.
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    I don't carry yet simply due to the fact that I'm in college and actually plan to purchase a pistol in the next few weeks.
    As far as SA, I'm very aware of my surroundings and if I'm standing still, my right thumb is usually touching my wallet in my back pocket and my index finger is in my front pocket touching my cell phone. Paranoid? You betcha! act like it? Nope. I developed this technique when I was the only white guy in a crowd of Africans in a market and a prime suspect for pickpocketing... (btw, I lived in Africa for 5 years)
    I hope to start carrying this summer to apply what I'm reading here and get more involved in this forum too.

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    Curtis wrote:
    Are you a fan of gecko45?

    http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

    I actually read that whole thing. Laughed many times.

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    I try to keep notice of those around me and especially those behind me when in line.
    Also, I act natural. I'm not a LEO, don't dress like a LEO, and don't act like a LEO, but the only response I have every gotten from people is "Are you a police officer?"
    Act natural and most people will not pay attention to you.
    Most people don't see what they aren't looking for!

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    Curtis wrote:
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    This made me laugh so hard I was crying. In respect to the actual point of this thread, I too always sit facing the door. I have done this even before I started carrying just for my peace of mind.
    "When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away."

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