Getting stop question.

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If a cpl holder get's stopped and is not carrying, but as a courtesy says I'm a cpl holder but am not carrying, what if the officer say's well I'd like to check you or your vehicle to be sure, could they do that. If not could someone point me toward a reference.

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If there was no other reason for the search then it would be unlawful.

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gettysburg wrote:

If a cpl holder get's stopped and is not carrying, but as a courtesy says I'm a cpl holder but am not carrying, what if the officer say's well I'd like to check you or your vehicle to be sure, could they do that. If not could someone point me toward a reference.

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I would always refuse to let them search me or my vehicle. If they do and it is found to be unlawful then anything they find could be tossed out.

BUT if you give them permission then it's a lawful search.

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They can ask whatever they want, but without RAS for a search, or a warrant, they cannot go beyond pulling you over and demanding the paperwork that the law makes you show them.

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As far as I'm concerned, if I'm not carrying, and disclose such, I'm doing them a favor. I've disclosed after pulling over, and have been told blatantly 'So what.' TWICE (by two different cops.) Needless to say, unless they have a grossly skewed view on reality, they have no reason whatsoever to search a CPL holder's car; considering what it takes to GET and MAINTAIN a CPL license. I can practically sneeze these days and Macomb Co. Gun Board will be calling.

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About 2 years before our colorful interactions with them, a jackass Oakland County Sheriff's deputy pulled over a CPL holding friend of a friend, and actually screamed at him about how stupid it was for a 23 year old to be carrying a gun which he didn't need.

Some cops really resent CPL holders, probably because these cops were picked on as small children, and want to feel better about themselves by being the biggest and most powerful bully on the street. Of course, not all cops are this way, but plenty are, especially in the mid west where way too many get into police work for all the wrong reasons. It's something to be ready for.