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    A watered down version has passed SB 411 and been sent to Gov O'Malley for his consideration and hopefully a signature. Not as strong as was wanted, but certainly better than nothing. Worst part was the language for awards was changed from Shall to May.

    better than nothing.

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    This bill passed the senate 45-2. Senators Gladden (Baltimore) and Exum (Landover) voted against it. Considering their districts, and the fact that the majority of their constituants are probably related to the people who stand to lose out if this bill passes, this comes as no big surprise...

    I would like to hear their official explanations as to why they think criminals and thugs should be able to sue law-abiding Marylanders, should the thugs and criminals be injured (or their survivors if they are killed) while breaking into the homes of law-abiding citizens.

    I'm sure their logic is mind-bogglingly sweet and tender.

    It's now in the House Judiciary Committee, and hopefully it will get "favorable review" and passed on for a full vote.

    EVERYONE in Maryland should call them and ask them why they are against a law that protects law-abiding citizens from civil suits when they defend themselves against lawless criminals and thugs:




    LISA A. GLADDEN

    Democrat, District 41, Baltimore City
    (410) 841-3697, (301) 858-3697
    1-800-492-7122, ext. 3697 (toll free)

    e-mail: lisa.gladden@senate.state.md.us






    NATHANIEL EXUM
    Democrat, District 24, Prince George's County
    (410) 841-3148, (301) 858-3148
    1-800-492-7122, ext. 3148 (toll free)

    e-mail: nathaniel.exum@senate.state.md.us
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    My understanding is it passed the GA and is now on it's way to the Gov.Is this not correct?

    http://mlis.state.md.us/2010rs/billfile/SB0411.htm

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    Yes, you are correct. I didn't realize it made it out of all the committees. Further research shows that it is headed to Gov. O'Malley's desk this week. It's hard to tell if he'll sign it, but even if he doesn't, there are easily enough votes in the GA to override his veto...

    It wouldn't surprise me if O'Malley vetos this bill though. Much like Senator Brian Frosh, he hates the idea of law-abiding citizens defending themselves, and loves to lend a helping hand to the other criminals in MD...
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
    --Barry Goldwater, 1964

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    I live in VA but work at PG hospital. When I see the people come in with gunshots etc that is the very reason I carry in VA. I have talked to some of the cops and they have been half and half about carrying let alone openly. Not surprisingly my guns save live stickers has gotten quite a few positive responses.

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    Looking at those two, I am not surprised.

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    Lets not forget that in England about 10 years ago, they passed a very similar bill.
    In the UK, if someone breaks in your home and threatens your life, and you shoot or harm him-YOU will get more prison time than the criminal.

    Maryland's law makers have become absolutely pathetic !
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    Dreamer wrote:
    Yes, you are correct. I didn't realize it made it out of all the committees. Further research shows that it is headed to Gov. O'Malley's desk this week. It's hard to tell if he'll sign it, but even if he doesn't, there are easily enough votes in the GA to override his veto...

    It wouldn't surprise me if O'Malley vetos this bill though. Much like Senator Brian Frosh, he hates the idea of law-abiding citizens defending themselves, and loves to lend a helping hand to the other criminals in MD...
    My understanding is he is going to let it sit on his desk and under MD law after 6 days it becomes law. This way he can pacify the antis by claiming he didn't actively support it.

    What a spinelss P***k.

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    Now informed the Gov has til June 1st to sign it. If no signature and no veto it becomes law.

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    The Immunity Bill is now rumored to be signed by Gov Owe Malley on May 20. 2010.

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    Sig229 wrote:
    Lets not forget that in England about 10 years ago, they passed a very similar bill.
    In the UK, if someone breaks in your home and threatens your life, and you shoot or harm him-YOU will get more prison time than the criminal.

    Maryland's law makers have become absolutely pathetic !
    ??? What bill are you talking about? This one (SB 411)is not what we wanted but certainly better than what we had.

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    Sig229 wrote:
    Lets not forget that in England about 10 years ago, they passed a very similar bill.
    In the UK, if someone breaks in your home and threatens your life, and you shoot or harm him-YOU will get more prison time than the criminal.

    Maryland's law makers have become absolutely pathetic !
    This bill protects homeowners. It basically states that you have protection from civil action in the event that a criminal is injured or killed while in the act of committing a crime inside of your home. The language isn't as strong as we wanted, but it's a start.

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    Gov signed the bill today. Effective October 1, 2010

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    Now the wait begins...

    Lets see if the next time a law-abiding citizen kills some thug who is invading their home, if they are, in fact, given civil and criminal immunity by the DA and the courts...

    Time will tell, but I'm not holding my breath. They pass a lot of laws in Annapolis to "protect the people", that are ultimately tossed aside by the courts for political expediency or to serve a larger political agenda. Witness the Traffic Camera laws. When Montgomery County blatantly violated the state statute, the AG just "gave them a pass"...

    I fear this may be just another law like that, that fall into the legislative dustbin when push comes to shove...
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
    --Barry Goldwater, 1964

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