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    what does the law say on carrying in a casino? i know it prohibits carrying in liquor establishments that are off limits to those under 21, but casinos are off limits to those under 21, but for gambling reasons. can you carry a firearm in a casino?

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    Tony Santiago wrote:
    what does the law say on carrying in a casino? i know it prohibits carrying in liquor establishments that are off limits to those under 21, but casinos are off limits to those under 21, but for gambling reasons. can you carry a firearm in a casino?
    There has never been a casino that I have seen or heard of that allowed firearms whether legal or not.

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    im not sure about the laws but i know most casinos will simply throw you out for having a firearm.

    hopefully someone who knows more will chime in.

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    There not 21+ for gambling. Gambling is 18+ but if they serve alcohol then its 21+. So I figure it would be the same as walking around in a bar. It is off limits to those under 21 for alcohol reasons.

    Altho if you are under 21 you can still walk thru just cant stop, At least in Vegas and probably the same here. I have been with my young cousin and nobody said anything around here, He just never stopped.

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    From just a quick look at some of the agreements between the State and the Tribes, they ALL appear to have this sort of requirement...



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    You also have to remember that any time you go onto the reservation, you have effectively left the U.S. and entered onto sovereign land.

    You are now subject to tribal law!

    We here in AZ are very careful about firearms on the 'res, you just never know what kind of day their LEO is having.

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    March Hare wrote:
    You also have to remember that any time you go onto the reservation, you have effectively left the U.S. and entered onto sovereign land.

    You are now subject to tribal law!

    We here in AZ are very careful about firearms on the 'res, you just never know what kind of day their LEO is having.

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    In my opinion, I would have said "you have effectively left the state" rather than "left the U.S." because Tribal land is still subject to Federal Law. Think of each Reservation as being their own state. Also, many reservations do honor state CPL's for non tribal residents. Here in Washington, the Reservation Police are actually a part of the County's Sheriff's Department.

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    You're right, I should have said State instead of U.S.
    Here in AZ, the tribal police are just that, tribal. The tribes have their own laws and officers to enforce them.
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    March Hare wrote:
    You're right, I should have said State instead of U.S.
    Here in AZ, the tribal police are just that, tribal. The tribes have their own laws and officers to enforce them.
    Same here, except most of the reservation police contract with the County Sheriff's office, probably to save them money.

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    March Hare wrote:
    You also have to remember that any time you go onto the reservation, you have effectively left the U.S. and entered onto sovereign land.

    You are now subject to tribal law!

    We here in AZ are very careful about firearms on the 'res, you just never know what kind of day their LEO is having.

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    Excuse me, but this is NOT Arizona.Arizona hasspecific state laws about this.

    White man is NOT subject to Indian/Tribal Law and cannot be charged with violating it, without a specific mirrored state law violation. In which case White Man will be charged with violation of state law, bya court which is either County, City, State,NOT Tribe.

    Stick to AZ , please........

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    Excuse me, but this is NOT Arizona.*Arizona has*specific state laws about this.

    White man is NOT subject to Indian/Tribal Law and cannot be charged with violating it, without a specific mirrored state law violation. In which case White Man will be charged with violation of state law, by*a court which is either County, City, State,*NOT Tribe.

    Stick to AZ , please........
    Wow. :what:
    Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
    I didn't realize that the laws concerning Tribal Reservations varied that much from state to state.
    Thank you for pointing out that fact to me.

    It would appear that you have it fully under control.

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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    March Hare wrote:
    You're right, I should have said State instead of U.S.
    Here in AZ, the tribal police are just that, tribal. The tribes have their own laws and officers to enforce them.
    Same here, except most of the reservation police contract with the County Sheriff's office, probably to save them money.
    What county contracts out police services to a tribe?
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    joeroket wrote:
    Aaron1124 wrote:
    March Hare wrote:
    You're right, I should have said State instead of U.S.
    Here in AZ, the tribal police are just that, tribal. The tribes have their own laws and officers to enforce them.
    Same here, except most of the reservation police contract with the County Sheriff's office, probably to save them money.
    What county contracts out police services to a tribe?
    King County Sheriff's Department for the Muckleshoot Tribe. That's one for sure. I haven't researched in to others.

    http://www.kingcounty.gov/safety/she...ckleshoot.aspx

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    I also believe that many local police departments contract out their officers to Military Bases as well.

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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    Aaron1124 wrote:
    March Hare wrote:
    You're right, I should have said State instead of U.S.
    Here in AZ, the tribal police are just that, tribal. The tribes have their own laws and officers to enforce them.
    Same here, except most of the reservation police contract with the County Sheriff's office, probably to save them money.
    What county contracts out police services to a tribe?
    King County Sheriff's Department for the Muckleshoot Tribe. That's one for sure. I haven't researched in to others.

    http://www.kingcounty.gov/safety/she...ckleshoot.aspx
    Well I'll be.... That is a new one on me. Thanks for the info.
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    No problem. I discovered it a while ago when I was researching the department to apply for a position.

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    So, can anyone point to a law that a non-Indian could be prosecuted for violating if said non-Indian possessed a gun in a casino? I'm not talking about if said non-Indian refused to leave after being told to do so, I'm asking if there is a crime that he could be charged with, right from the get go.

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    olypendrew wrote:
    So, can anyone point to a law that a non-Indian could be prosecuted for violating if said non-Indian possessed a gun in a casino? I'm not talking about if said non-Indian refused to leave after being told to do so, I'm asking if there is a crime that he could be charged with, right from the get go.
    I think it would depend on the the specific laws of the tribe, and if they pertain to non Indians, or just to Indians of the Reservation. I know you're asking for a specific law, but unfortunately, I'm not sure of any off of the top of my head.

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    olypendrew wrote:
    So, can anyone point to a law that a non-Indian could be prosecuted for violating if said non-Indian possessed a gun in a casino? I'm not talking about if said non-Indian refused to leave after being told to do so, I'm asking if there is a crime that he could be charged with, right from the get go.
    All of the Casinos I have been to are marked at the entrance with the liquor control board required signs. This indicates to me that it is off limits due to the classification by the LCB. Besides that you only need to be 18 to gamble in Wa.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    I got kicked out of Emerald Queen Casino for having my pocket knife in my pocket...

    That's OK though, that casino sucks. Way too smokey in there, burned my eyes with all the cigarette smoke.
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    SpyderTattoo wrote:
    I got kicked out of Emerald Queen Casino for having my pocket knife in my pocket...

    That's OK though, that casino sucks. Way too smokey in there, burned my eyes with all the cigarette smoke.
    They frisked you?
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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    olypendrew wrote:
    So, can anyone point to a law that a non-Indian could be prosecuted for violating if said non-Indian possessed a gun in a casino? I'm not talking about if said non-Indian refused to leave after being told to do so, I'm asking if there is a crime that he could be charged with, right from the get go.
    I think it would depend on the the specific laws of the tribe, and if they pertain to non Indians, or just to Indians of the Reservation. I know you're asking for a specific law, but unfortunately, I'm not sure of any off of the top of my head.
    Tribal laws do not apply to non-indians and they cannot make them apply to non-indians. If a non-indian breaks a tribal law/rule the only thing the they can do is trespass us from their land.
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    So they can tresspass but not prosecute, for possesion

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    Sparky508 wrote:
    So* they can tresspass but not prosecute, for possesion
    As long as it is not unlawful by State law that is correct. If it is unlawful by statute then the State/County will be prosecuting.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    NavyLT wrote:
    Here's what I found:

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=10.92.020

    Any citation issued under this chapter shall be to a Washington court, except that any citation issued to Indians within the exterior boundaries of an Indian reservation may be cited to a tribal court. Any arrest made or citation issued not in compliance with this chapter is not enforceable.

    (4) Any authorization granted under this chapter shall not in any way expand the jurisdiction of any tribal court or other tribal authority.
    Pardon me if I seem a little dense LT, but my take on this is that they can write tickets until they run out of ink, but if they aren't in line with state law, they are automatically null and void?

    soooooooooooo, if the premises are 18 and elderer, not liquor board mandated and lata dee da da, we can carry until asked to remove ourselves from the premise, and if we are cited by an indian type police officer, our friendly county/ state judge guy SHOULD toss it out...............:?

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