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    Man Says Gun Used In Drunken Foreplay Killed Girlfriend
    Posted: 10:46 am PDT April 12, 2010Updated: 2:06 pm PDT April 12, 2010

    GRANITE FALLS, Wash. -- [/b]A 25-year-old man says he accidentally shot to death his 22-year-old girlfriend with a gun they used during drunken foreplay, said Rebecca Hover of the Snohomish County Sheriff’s Office.

    The man told detectives that he and his girlfriend of 10 years had been drinking at a party in their home Saturday night and afterward were intimate in bed.

    He told police that he rubbed the loaded handgun all over his girlfriend after consuming more than one six-pack of beer. He said his girlfriend drank six bottles of Mike’s Hard Lemonade.

    He said that the couple forgot about the gun until after having sex. He said he found the gun at the foot of the bed and picked it up. When he swung his arm toward his girlfriend, it went off, he told police.

    He called 911, and deputies responded at about 5:30 a.m. Sunday to the home in the 23200 block of 134th Street Northeast in unincorporated Granite Falls.

    Hover said, "He was adamant the shooting was an accident."

    He called himself an "idiot" several times during an interview with police and implied he would hurt himself for what he’d done, police said.

    During the incident, the couple's two young children were asleep in the same room on a different bed, Hover said.

    The man was booked into the Snohomish County Jail Sunday afternoon on a charge of first-degree manslaughter.

    Hover said a background check indicated that there have been three previous domestic violence incidents involving the couple between 2007 and 2009, with the girlfriend as the victim.

    The case remains under investigation.
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    I heard about it on the news. Absolutely disgusting, in my opinion. The man should be 100% held accountable for his actions. It doesn't matter if they're doing it for "fun". Those are the dangers involved when you're playing around with a lethal weapon. Very VERY negligent.

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    I have an answer for the Brady's and Anti Gun folk. This concerns reducing gun violence in our society and keeping guns out of the hands of felons. AND it will NOT restrict law abiding gun owners in any way!

    How do you do this you ask? That is an excellent question.

    If you become a violent felon then you stay in prison for life. (This would need to be defined as a felon who used violence, a weaplon, etc)

    If you are in prison for life, no parole, you can not be a felon in possesion of a firearm. This would have a dramatic effect on reducing crime and gun violence. Most criminals become repeat offenders.
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    The second time in just a few months that I read about such a thing and both end with somebody dead.

    http://www.wcsh6.com/news/local/stor...storyid=113221

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    I thought you cant get/own a gun if you have a DV on your record?
    But I might be wrong... I dunno.

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    Glocked and Loaded wrote:
    I thought you cant get/own a gun if you have a DV on your record?
    But I might be wrong... I dunno.
    You would have to be convicted of dv to lose your firearm rights currently.

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    If you have been charged and convicted of any sort of DV, even Assault 4, then you lose your rights to own or possess a firearm.

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    9.41.040:

    (1)(a) A person, whether an adult or juvenile, is guilty of the crime of unlawful possession of a firearm in the first degree, if the person owns, has in his or her possession, or has in his or her control any firearm after having previously been convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity in this state or elsewhere of any serious offense as defined in this chapter.

    (b) Unlawful possession of a firearm in the first degree is a class B felony punishable according to chapter 9A.20 RCW.

    (2)(a) A person, whether an adult or juvenile, is guilty of the crime of unlawful possession of a firearm in the second degree, if the person does not qualify under subsection (1) of this section for the crime of unlawful possession of a firearm in the first degree and the person owns, has in his or her possession, or has in his or her control any firearm:

    (i) After having previously been convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity in this state or elsewhere of any felony not specifically listed as prohibiting firearm possession under subsection (1) of this section, or any of the following crimes when committed by one family or household member against another, committed on or after July 1, 1993: Assault in the fourth degree, coercion, stalking, reckless endangerment, criminal trespass in the first degree, or violation of the provisions of a protection order or no-contact order restraining the person or excluding the person from a residence (RCW 26.50.060, 26.50.070, 26.50.130, or 10.99.040);

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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    If you have been charged and convicted of any sort of DV, even Assault 4, then you lose your rights to own or possess a firearm.
    Agreed, the operative word being in bold and underlined.
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    j2l3 wrote:
    Aaron1124 wrote:
    If you have been charged and convicted of any sort of DV, even Assault 4, then you lose your rights to own or possess a firearm.
    Agreed, the operative word being in bold and underlined.
    And in red

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    What the hell kind of fetish is that?

    This guy was right when he called himself an idiot. If he was convicted of DV, he shouldn't have had the gun in the first place.
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    I see.
    Well he had 3 opportunities to be convicted of DV...

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    i would say both the man and the woman are complete idiots!

    ive known girls to be turned on by firearms (one of my ex-girlfriends) but the gun should never be loaded. a loaded firearm is not a toy/sex toy!

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    I don't buy "accident".

    I think we may see this turn into more than just manslaughter.


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    G22Paddy wrote:
    What the hell kind of fetish is that?

    This guy was right when he called himself an idiot. If he was convicted of DV, he shouldn't have had the gun in the first place.
    The article doesn't reference any convictions, only that there was record of previousincidents of DV between them.
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    Matt85 wrote:
    i would say both the man and the woman are complete idiots!

    ive known girls to be turned on by firearms (one of my ex-girlfriends) but the gun should never be loaded. a loaded firearm is not a toy/sex toy!

    -matt
    In my opinion, playing around with even a supposed unloaded firearm is dangerous. You never know.. you might forget to check the chamber during the heat of the moment or something stupid like that. Same thing with those weirdos who enjoy the "rape" fantasies and hold knives up to their neck. What are you going to do if you accidentally fall forward with the blade? Just not a good idea all together, but whatever tickles their fancy, I guess.

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    Matt85 wrote:
    i would say both the man and the woman are complete idiots!

    ive known girls to be turned on by firearms (one of my ex-girlfriends) but the gun should never be loaded. a loaded firearm is not a toy/sex toy!

    -matt
    Guns are not toys and should never be treated as if they are!

    Rule #1 is treat all guns as if they are loaded, never point a gun at something that you do not intend to destroy. Anyone stupid enough to get turned on by a gun to their head obviously needs straightening out but not in a way that ends up killing them.

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    Stupidity, it's like playing russian roulette with a semi-auto handgun.
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    Wild Night!

    She should have made sure it was unloaded.

    Should've been smarter.

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    They were both stupid people! The 2 kids sleeping in the same room while this was going on?

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    FMCDH wrote:
    I don't buy "accident".

    I think we may see this turn into more than just manslaughter.
    +1 I feel too that some of these "accidents" with children are suspect too.

    Like the one a few weeks ago in the south where a three year old girl pulled the 12 pound trigger on a revolver and shot herself in the stomach, and the mothertold the police the daughter thought it was a "Wii" remote?
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    gogodawgs wrote:
    I have an answer for the Brady's and Anti Gun folk. This concerns reducing gun violence in our society and keeping guns out of the hands of felons. AND it will NOT restrict law abiding gun owners in any way!

    How do you do this you ask? That is an excellent question.

    If you become a violent felon then you stay in prison for life. (This would need to be defined as a felon who used violence, a weaplon, etc)

    If you are in prison for life, no parole, you can not be a felon in possesion of a firearm. This would have a dramatic effect on reducing crime and gun violence. Most criminals become repeat offenders.
    As far as the Domestic Violence, they have this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesti...fender_Gun_Ban

    The "Lautenberg Amendment" as it's called, if you are convicted you lose your right to own a firearm. Many a military person has gotten discharged because they went home drunk, hit their spouse, and got convicted.

    And as far as felons in prison forever... sounds great... but can you imagine how EXPENSIVE that would be? We pay enough as it is to educate felons (I love how they get LAW degrees -_- )

    I have a good solution. Don't play with firearmswhen you're inebriated. And this goes for clubs, knives, pepper spray, etc.
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    killchain wrote:
    I have a good solution. Don't play with firearmswhen you're inebriated. And this goes for clubs, knives, pepper spray, etc.
    *giggles*.


    *Also shudders remembering the horror.......:what:*


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    j2l3 wrote:
    G22Paddy wrote:
    What the hell kind of fetish is that?

    This guy was right when he called himself an idiot. If he was convicted of DV, he shouldn't have had the gun in the first place.
    The article doesn't reference any convictions, only that there was record of previousincidents of DV between them.
    Which is why I said if. Haven't read the article yet.
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    maybe they watched one too many episodes of the soprano's.

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