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    So, my wife is pregnant and "needed" a frozen coffee drink from Sheetz. I went in to Sheetz with my hi-point c-9 in holster (as usual) wearing a sweatshirt, jeans, and I haven't shaved in a couple days (just pointing out that I didn't look like a cop) to order her drink.

    I notice a white van with tinted windows, spotlight, and MD tags. I thought it may have been a customer of mine who works for the police in MD because it looked like the one he drives. I headed in the door and looked around as I walked in to see if my customer was there so I could say hi.

    I didn't see him, but I did see a guy with a gun on his hip, a "high and tight" haircut, and a black shirt tucked in that looked like it had the MDSP logo on it. He was talking to someone I see in there fairly regularly. The officer immediately looked down at my gun and seemed confused/concerned. I simply said "how you doin' sir?", as I do with most everyone, and went to the order screen to punch in the wifeys order.

    As I could still see them in my peripheral vision, the officer moved close to the other guy and said, "What does that guy think he's doing?". The local simply stated, "Oh, PA has open carry.". The officer said back, "What?", seeming to get more confused. They then moved further away so I couldn't see or hear them.

    I finished my order, paid, got her drink and walked out. The funny part was I got to say "Have a nice day" to the officer as he stared me down from the door of the Sheetz to my truck. I assume he is not familiar with this area. Hopefully today showed him that a civilian can carry a gun and not act like a crazy person. This short education may have prevented him from going in to "panic mode" if he saw a MWAG in PA again.

    Another (seemingly) successful OC encounter in PA! And I didn't even have to explain anything!

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    Outstanding! Brought a smile to my face.

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    Another MDer who thinks their laws are the norm across the country. Glad he got schooled.

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    Apparently, small minds are easily confused.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

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    Citizen wrote:
    Apparently, small minds are easily confused.*
    I think "small minds" and "closed minds" are interchangeable here.

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    If he got lippy, you might have reminded him that he's a GUEST in YOUR state.
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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    Deanimator wrote:
    If he got lippy, you might have reminded him that he's a GUEST in YOUR state.
    "PA State police? Yes. I would like to report a possible police impersonator. Yes, ma'am. There is a man here dressed in what seems like a Maryland police uniform, but he is behaving unprofessionally. Based on his unprofessional conduct, I really don't thinkhe is a genuine police officer.Can you send someone to check this out?"
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Nice.

    On a side note does anyone else notice that PSP seem to be waaaaay more anti open carry than local cops?

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    t1m0thy wrote:
    Nice.
    Fair is fair. If some copswant to claim some special status, be heroes in blue, and project some false professionalism by way of the Blue Wall of Silence, so be it.

    Some cops want us to believe all that nonsense. Fine with me. I believe it. They have no room to complain if I actually adopt and use what they want me to believe.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Citizen wrote:
    Deanimator wrote:
    If he got lippy, you might have reminded him that he's a GUEST in YOUR state.
    "PA State police? Yes. I would like to report a possible police impersonator. Yes, ma'am. There is a man here dressed in what seems like a Maryland police uniform, but he is behaving unprofessionally. Based on his unprofessional conduct, I really don't thinkhe is a genuine police officer.Can you send someone to check this out?"
    I ABSOLUTELY love what you said here! hahahahahahaaha

    I would sooo do that. Maryland officers aggravate me.

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    Living IN Maryland (born and raised), I have to agree!!!

    The hubris of the MSP, andespecially the politicians, is mind-boggling!!

    For the group in general... does PA make a distinction of resident v. non-res. on OC???

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    No. Since the law is silent on open carry, it applies equally to insiders and outsiders.

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    Whenever I find myself making that quick dash through Hagerstown on I-81, I have to remind myself: "This isn't Virgina, and this isn't Pennsylvania. This isn't Virgina, and this isn't Pennsylvania. This isn't Virgina, and this isn't Pennsylvania..."


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    That was a good post.

    You know whats funny also, yesterday I saw two MSP officers in Uniontown, PA in Fayette county.

    I was also OC'ing but I dont think they saw me.

    Keep in mind Fayette county is a good drive from the MD line.

    I am a little worried about the sudden influx of Nazi Maryland LEO's coming into our state.

    Makes me nervous....

    Maybe somethings going on. Could be Police cross training or perhaps MSP is really looking hard for somebody in an investigation.

    Either way, they better respect our local laws and gun freedoms.

    I escaped Maryland for a reason!
    "Let your gun be your constant companion during your walks" ~Thomas Jefferson

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    t1m0thy wrote:
    Nice.*

    On a side note does anyone else notice that PSP seem to be waaaaay more anti open carry than local cops?
    i've seen the opposite, myself. i've dealt with PSP on occasion, and except for one minor incident, PSP has always been thoroughly courteous and professional. my issues are always with local PDs and other LEOs.
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    jahwarrior72 wrote:
    t1m0thy wrote:
    Nice.

    On a side note does anyone else notice that PSP seem to be waaaaay more anti open carry than local cops?
    i've seen the opposite, myself. i've dealt with PSP on occasion, and except for one minor incident, PSP has always been thoroughly courteous and professional. my issues are always with local PDs and other LEOs.
    same here, it's the local revenuers that give me worries

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    Another different experience

    I open carry in Lancaster County. I walked into Lowes one morning right after they opened shorts, plain white shirt, unshaved, hair a mess with my 9mm on my side. The few people in the store were looking at me like I was going to rob the store. One person asked me why I carry. I told him that I spent 3 years in Afghanistan as a civilian and that people are untrustworthy to me anymore. He then asked me why I was in Afghanistan. I replied that is where my job is working on the Maxxpro MRAP vehicle. Anyways the conversation went on. My final statement to him was, What if someone walked in right now attemptng to rob the store? What if they started opening up on innocent people? Who would stop them? You never know what is going to happen. Criminals do not follow laws! Education is the key to Safety!

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