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    Why am I dubious about this? Stuff like calling something a "brigade" when it has a complement of 80,000 doesn't help one's credibility, now, does it?


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    I'm still trying to figure out what the "update" was about. There seems to be a sentence fragment to the effect that the "program" was expanded, but that is all.

    What's going on? Is somebody just trying to recycle old news to create a new scare? New news would be telling us all about the expansions to the program. Gimme some sinister plots to install a dictatorship or something, or some expansion to put the entire midwest under martial law at the first hanging chad. Something, anything to relieve the tedium.
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    Citizen wrote:
    What's going on? Is somebody just trying to recycle old news to create a new scare? ... Something, anything to relieve the tedium.
    I think we have a winner. Somebody, somewhere, is trying to relieve the tedium.

    Either that, or ACORN or someone else has infiltrated THIS guys mind...

    A brigade of 80,000...right...sure, uh-huh...yep.


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    Brigades are roughly 1,400 Soldiers. I don't even think 3rd ID HAS 80,000 troops.

    Furthermore, I doubt they would take one of the most deployed units in the Army and remove them from the deployment cycle just so they can "take our guns."

    This article is a sham.
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -John Stuart Mill

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    killchain wrote:
    Brigades are roughly 1,400 Soldiers. I don't even think 3rd ID HAS 80,000 troops.

    Furthermore, I doubt they would take one of the most deployed units in the Army and remove them from the deployment cycle just so they can "take our guns."

    This article is a sham.
    Dunno about infantry divisions....last time I was in a division, it was 3rd AD in the Fulda Gap, back in the dark ages of the Cold War. We had about 15,000 in the division, but that includes combat service support, combat support and combat arms. V Corps had about 35,000 - 40,000 I would guess, based on what I remember...

    This guy, in the immortal words of Bugs Bunny "What a maroon, what a nin-cow-poop."

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    And they are building special reeducation camps in Georgia to house the dissidents, they are spraying chemicals from civilian airliners that make the populace docile, and they will be confiscating all supplies of tinfoil to prevent you from making your hat.

    OK.

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    This unit only has 8,000 i used to work for Nothcom, who knows where this 80,000 number came from maybe its all of the Army Norths numbers and Northcoms numbers put together.

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    82nd Division > 2nd Brigade > 325th Regiment > 3rd Battalion

    We were one Infantry Battalion within a Regiment that was part of an overall Brigade. Our Battalion alone was 1,100 troops. A brigade can be as many as 5,000 but it depends heavily on what kind of troops we're talking about and what their primary mission is. Nevertheless, you don't 80,000 until at least Corps level, most likely Field Army level.

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    ChuckUFarley wrote:
    This unit only has 8,000 i used to work for Nothcom, who knows where this 80,000 number came from maybe its all of the Army Norths numbers and Northcoms numbers put together.
    8,000 - 80,000....what's a factor of 10 between friends?

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    This article discusses the same thing but a bit more sensibly in my opinion.
    http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9869
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    When I read crap like this it Kind'a makes ya wonder ....... are they going to ...... ?????

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    Bersa.380 wrote:
    When I read crap like this it Kind'a makes ya wonder ....... are they going to ...... ?????
    Not as long as we have 10 times more guns than they do.



    That is what the 2A is all about.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Technically, we've been under a National Emergency since a miner's strike in the Eisenhower presidency. It was declared by executive order and never lifted, and many of the executive orders that come out reference that as their lawful grounds for the order.
    Who panicked at all of Bush's counterinsurgency executive orders? Or Clintons? (I see hands on that one.)

    Tea Party members, for example, have been warned in recent days that members of Andy Stern's SEIU union and members of the organization formerly known as ACORN plan to infiltrate Tea Party gatherings in order to incite some sort of incident that could result in armed conflict.
    ACORN has already gone underground, changing its name so as to fly beneath the radar screen. How many people will the group register to vote illegally?
    You've got to be kidding me.


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    Thundar wrote:
    Bersa.380 wrote:
    When I read crap like this it Kind'a makes ya wonder ....... are they going to ...... ?????
    Not as long as we have 10 times more guns than they do.



    That is what the 2A is all about.
    And not since over half of the military own guns.

    And are sworn to uphold and protect the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

    This is just some tin-foil hat shake and bake creation.
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -John Stuart Mill

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    This article has been all over web forums for a few days now. It's been debunked through and through. No danger here.

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